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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Are they claiming to be objective or impartial in this study?
    I think saying that you are a "watchdog" group is different than admitting that you are a political operative of the GOP. So yes, they are and they are not.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by ads1981 View Post
    Good to see AC take a dive.

    Good god watching her try to justify that outright lie as "paraphrasing" is utterly hysterical. Also infuriating.

    Edit: Although a few years old now, "Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them" is a great read.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    She sure is a sarcastic, angry little thing. Like a wasp.



    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Good god watching her try to justify that outright lie as "paraphrasing" is utterly hysterical. Also infuriating.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Didn't we go about a year figuring this out? And now they come up with this? Too late now.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Ooh, a study done by a "conservative watchdog group" with an agenda. What a shock.
    It is not exactly a fair complaint here considering many "liberal watchdog" groups have done the exact same thing after elections. I'm not dismissing the heart of the complaint, just saying that there are sore losers and you must be fair and call out the other groups from 2000, 2004, etc. then there was the silence in '06(I think?) when the exact same type of election challenge happened in Washington. Just saying things need to be considered in a level playing field.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    If they're not, then why should we pay any attention to it? Doing a study to prove what you already believe is the opposite way of finding out the truth.

    And if they are, why should we believe them?

    When an independent voter group or an unbiased media source does a similar study, then I'd pay attention to it.
    There may be a bias, but from what I've seen about it most of the arguments from the left that I've seen here were addressed in the initial report, that of not being certain on the vote breakdown being the biggest one. The point is either way the felons voted they weren't supposed to vote.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    341 convicted felon votes, 312 being the difference in the election. To be the deciding factor, the felons would have had to break like 90% towards Franken. When was the last time any demographic broke that hard in a Senate race?
    90% of blacks vote for the Leftists, and my bet is 90% of felons vote that way too. I say vote... because it seems they have swung an election.

    It's why Democrats have been pushing to allow felons to vote. It would be another reliable bloc of dimwits for them.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    90% of blacks vote for the Leftists, and my bet is 90% of felons vote that way too. I say vote... because it seems they have swung an election.

    It's why Democrats have been pushing to allow felons to vote. It would be another reliable bloc of dimwits for them.

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    So what you're saying is that 90% of felonies are committed by liberals. Or that prison magically converts people to liberalism.

    Evidence, please.

    This is just conservatives desperately grasping at straws so they can tell themselves that their guy didn't get beaten by a comedian.

    Besides, this "watchdog group" didn't bother to verify felons voting in conservative districts, they only went with the Minneapolis area because they knew it was more liberal. Bias much?
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So what you're saying is that 90% of felonies are committed by liberals. Or that prison magically converts people to liberalism.

    Evidence, please.

    This is just conservatives desperately grasping at straws so they can tell themselves that their guy didn't get beaten by a comedian.

    Besides, this "watchdog group" didn't bother to verify felons voting in conservative districts, they only went with the Minneapolis area because they knew it was more liberal. Bias much?
    Again, you are missing the point. The point is that people voted who should not been allowed to vote in the first place. The point is that votes counted that should not have been counted. It doesn't matter who they voted for, it matters that the integrity of the election is shot. Since you have yet to address this point, the point of the story, will you continue to divert, will you finally address the point or will you simply drop out of this thread?

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    Again, you are missing the point. The point is that people voted who should not been allowed to vote in the first place. The point is that votes counted that should not have been counted. It doesn't matter who they voted for, it matters that the integrity of the election is shot. Since you have yet to address this point, the point of the story, will you continue to divert, will you finally address the point or will you simply drop out of this thread?
    I'm responding to people who suggest that the felons voting changed the outcome of the election. It didn't. Nobody is suggesting that illegal voting is OK or that it shouldn't be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Will you drop this straw man or will you drop out of this thread?

    Are you suggesting that every candidate that ever received a single fraudulent vote was elected improperly? Do you think there has ever been in history a president who didn't receive at least one fraudulent vote?

    Are you also aware that felons can vote in Minnesota once their sentence and probation end? Not all of these records are public, some of the names that this watchdog group came up with are people who actually are eligible to vote.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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