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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    For me at least, the issue isn't who the felons voted for, it's that their votes even counted. How were they able to register to vote? It doesn't matter who won at this point. Even if every single one of them voted for Stuart Smalley, it won't change the fact that Stuart Smalley is a Congressman from the state of Minnesota. Ths issue here, and some people on both sides seem to be blurring the issue with reciting their party's talking points, is that this is voter fraud - plain and simple. The people of MN should be outraged - not that Smalley may or may not have won because of voter fraud, but that the integrity of the state's election system is seriously flawed.
    I completely agree. To me this is no different if some Republican won because of a similar series of events in another state. The fact that it seems like it is fairly easy to commit voter fraud in Minnesota makes me think the elections committee there should seriously look into it.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The recount was required by law due to the very close initial results. If people feel it should not have happened, well... they're wrong.
    Laws are only useful when they help your side or hurt the other. Otherwise it seems like people are OK with ignoring them.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    For me at least, the issue isn't who the felons voted for, it's that their votes even counted. How were they able to register to vote? It doesn't matter who won at this point. Even if every single one of them voted for Stuart Smalley, it won't change the fact that Stuart Smalley is a Congressman from the state of Minnesota. Ths issue here, and some people on both sides seem to be blurring the issue with reciting their party's talking points, is that this is voter fraud - plain and simple. The people of MN should be outraged - not that Smalley may or may not have won because of voter fraud, but that the integrity of the state's election system is seriously flawed.
    The problem may be there is some issues is getting the data together in time for the election. If you go to Minnesota Majority's site, there is a copy of the report that states that they originally looked at people who were "charged" with a felony. Apparently verifying the conviction takes more time. MM did cut the number down and turned the information into the County Attorneys for the two counties listed, which they said they did because those counties had the highest number. The county attorneys from those counties did investigate and brought charges against a handful of the names, I'm gonna say around 20. Minnesota Majority admits that there could be several reasons for this including that the county attorneys don't have the resources to investigate each possible felon. Note that even Minnesota Majority only turned in two of the counties because they didn't want to check all of the other possible illegal voters as well.

    The thing is Minnesota Majority has made much larger claims about a bad voting system. Who's responsible for regulating this in their state? The Secretary of State. Who originally headed the Minnesota Majority? The former secretary of state from the other party. I don't think all this is a coincidence.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Since most felons are hard drinking, gun toten rednecks it stands to reason they would vote for Coleman.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    I think that this voter fraud issue isn't just isolated to Minnesota. I would imagine that it also happens elsewhere but isn't really given as much attention because it usually doesn't affect the outcome.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I think that this voter fraud issue isn't just isolated to Minnesota. I would imagine that it also happens elsewhere but isn't really given as much attention because it usually doesn't affect the outcome.
    Of course, it didn't affec the outcome here either.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Of course, it didn't affec the outcome here either.
    Well, we don't have conclusive evidence either way really.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, In reading your article, it reads like something poorly written by mediamatters. The author is clearly in Frankin's camp.

    BTW, do you think Olberman is a journalist?

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Well, we don't have conclusive evidence either way really.
    Being more or less statistically impossible works for me.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Senator Al Franken. Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    For me at least, the issue isn't who the felons voted for, it's that their votes even counted. How were they able to register to vote? It doesn't matter who won at this point. Even if every single one of them voted for Stuart Smalley, it won't change the fact that Stuart Smalley is a Congressman from the state of Minnesota. Ths issue here, and some people on both sides seem to be blurring the issue with reciting their party's talking points, is that this is voter fraud - plain and simple. The people of MN should be outraged - not that Smalley may or may not have won because of voter fraud, but that the integrity of the state's election system is seriously flawed.

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