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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Nah, not going to do your research for you and I'm convinced it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference to you guys in the slightest. You got what you wanted and you don't care how you got it.

    I should point out that unlike you folks, I am NOT an anonymous guy on the internet; I am a practicing attorney, have taught Constitutional law, and while you may disagree with my analysis, I at least know what I'm talking about.
    You are a fraud if you think we are going to accept your word on the subject without proof. But don't worry, it does not shock me for a second you refuse to provide any proof to back up your theories.

    Its funny how you berate people on the internet who post but we are supposed to trust you when you claim you are a lawyer.

    Ah hypocrisy. Perhaps you are a lawyer after all.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    What a nice man you are. Apparently unable to debate without calling your opponent a liar and claiming that it's BS. Duly reported.

    Wonder why no one wants to play with you nicely?

    I have no idea who you are (and my links are at the bottom of every post) but let's assume for the sake of argument that you're a doctor, having spent many years in school. Imagine this conversation:

    YOU: To treat this disease, I advise you to take this medicine.

    ME: Ha! What do you know? I believe that using Bert's Beeswax will work just as good, and I heard some other people say that as well.

    YOU: No, I know what I am talking about, and I think you'll find that a majority of doctors agree with me.

    ME: Oh yeah? Then I demand that you prove it this instant. And if you won't, then obviously I am right even though I have presented absolutely no evidence to support my view.

    Now, would you put up with this crap or would you just walk away, shaking your head?

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    MMmm hmm. Wonder if you'd say the same thing if they decided Gore won.
    If he was ahead in the initial count and the legal recounts then yes, I would.

    You realize it was a STATE law that the Supreme Court ruled on?
    Who else was going to take it. States cannot violate their own laws, and certainly can't change them during an election.
    Oh, that's right, conservatives only care about state's rights when it gives them the result they want.
    Oh how wrong you
    are.
    The vast majority of all Constitutional scholars, lawyers and judges will tell you it's a bad decision.
    Such as?
    That obviously includes many conservatives.
    Such as?
    Forgive me if I pay attention to experts in the field as opposed to some anonymous guy on the internet.
    Who? Link? Care to expand?
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Nah, not going to do your research for you and I'm convinced it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference to you guys in the slightest. You got what you wanted and you don't care how you got it.

    I should point out that unlike you folks, I am NOT an anonymous guy on the internet; I am a practicing attorney, have taught Constitutional law, and while you may disagree with my analysis, I at least know what I'm talking about.
    Well, forgive us sir if you restate over and over that experts mainly agree with you and we ask you for some examples and writings.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Well, forgive us sir if you restate over and over that experts mainly agree with you and we ask you for some examples and writings.
    Then let me turn it around for you: I challenge you to find many articles from conservative legal scholars that support this decision.

    There are plenty from liberal and apolitical scholars. You can ignore the liberals ones if you want, but there are plenty of learned treatises discussing how poor the decisions was legally.

    And then you'll find some prominent conservatives who have argued against it, as well.

    But you're not going to find many legal scholars at all who defend it. Even in the conservative reviews and papers like the Wall Street Journal, there's very little. Seems like a case that important would get all sorts of articles, wouldn't it?

    The few you will find represent a small minority (as I stated) and most are obviously political in nature (as are a percentage of the liberal views of course).

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Then let me turn it around for you: I challenge you to find many articles from conservative legal scholars that support this decision.
    Oh no. You personally made the statement that most legal/constitutional experts agreed with your take on this decision, I did not. You provide the proof in this assertion or you may drop it.

    There are plenty from liberal and apolitical scholars. You can ignore the liberals ones if you want, but there are plenty of learned treatises discussing how poor the decisions was legally.
    Ah, so provide the names and link to their words if you please.

    And then you'll find some prominent conservatives who have argued against it, as well.
    Who?

    But you're not going to find many legal scholars at all who defend it. Even in the conservative reviews and papers like the Wall Street Journal, there's very little. Seems like a case that important would get all sorts of articles, wouldn't it?
    Still waiting on names and writings.

    The few you will find represent a small minority (as I stated) and most are obviously political in nature (as are a percentage of the liberal views of course).
    Ah, so you're not going to be providing those names then...........?
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Oh no. You personally made the statement that most legal/constitutional experts agreed with your take on this decision, I did not. You provide the proof in this assertion or you may drop it.

    Ah, so provide the names and link to their words if you please.

    Who?

    Still waiting on names and writings.

    Ah, so you're not going to be providing those names then...........?
    Just do a google search, will ya? There's hundreds.

    Jesus, this is like saying "Many people consider the Beatles good music" and having someone say "Oh yeah? Since you didn't source anything, I will then conclude the exact opposite."

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Just do a google search, will ya? There's hundreds.

    Jesus, this is like saying "Many people consider the Beatles good music" and having someone say "Oh yeah? Since you didn't source anything, I will then conclude the exact opposite."
    "I don't have any evidence to support what I'm saying and want you to find it for me."
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "I don't have any evidence to support what I'm saying and want you to find it for me."
    "I get paid $150 an hour to do research for people and I don't feel like doing it to satisfy someone who has shown that evidence wouldn't matter anyway."

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