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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You got me there. I actually thought it was from a SNL skit. After all, he has done some crazy things on SNL. So it looks like "gullible" got my ass this time. LOL. OK, so here is the deal.....

    1) Franken was photshopped by some asshole who wouldn't know an ethic if it hit him in the face.

    2) But the picture is still funny as hell. I can't stop laughing.

    3) But, just to make things fair, here is something for you to laugh about.

    4) Are we even now?
    Yep, fine!

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    President Bush's election was not decided by crooked state counting of the votes like they did here in Washington and Minnesota where dead and felon votes were counted for the dems.
    No it was the Supreme Court overturning the will of the people and annointing GWB. That should never happen again....just look at the mess that we got left with after we was done destroying America.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No it was the Supreme Court overturning the will of the people and annointing GWB. That should never happen again....just look at the mess that we got left with after we was done destroying America.
    Sigh, when you do things like this, you make the rest of us liberals look bad. Who got the most votes in FLA? Damned if I know. If you let an election be too close to call, then it is lawyers who will decide it, and whose lawyers argue best wins. Gore has no one to blame but himself. I may not like it, but the truth is that Bush won, and no amount of hand wringing is going to change that.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Sigh, when you do things like this, you make the rest of us liberals look bad. Who got the most votes in FLA? Damned if I know. If you let an election be too close to call, then it is lawyers who will decide it, and whose lawyers argue best wins. Gore has no one to blame but himself. I may not like it, but the truth is that Bush won, and no amount of hand wringing is going to change that.
    Sorry Redress....I love ya....but what happened in Florida should NEVER ever happen again. The Supreme Court themselves said that their decision held no stare decisis which should tell everyone that it was activism at its highest level. We all saw the results and our nation will be paying the price of GWB for a very long time.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry Redress....I love ya....but what happened in Florida should NEVER ever happen again. The Supreme Court themselves said that their decision held no stare decisis which should tell everyone that it was activism at its highest level. We all saw the results and our nation will be paying the price of GWB for a very long time.
    I agree at least with that part. It was one of the worst Supreme Court decisions ever, and not because I disliked its conclusion. Even conservative Constitutional scholars hate it, because it was blatantly and obviously political, and had no precedent.

    The whole matter should have been left to the Florida Supreme Court -- there was no real federal issue. If they had decided for Bush, I think a lot of people would have accepted it and you wouldn't still be hearing gripes about the US S.Ct.

    Seriously, law students will be studying this case for years, along with Dred Scott and Korematsu as some of the court's worst decisions ever, since they were based solely on politics and not law.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry Redress....I love ya....but what happened in Florida should NEVER ever happen again.
    Absolutely correct. A state supreme court NEVER should bastardize a long standing election law to favor one candidate over another granting secondary recounts that did not exist in the original law. But then again Al Gore will probably never run for president again so that probably won't happen in the near future.
    The Supreme Court themselves said that their decision held no stare decisis which should tell everyone that it was activism at its highest level.
    You're right, I mean, how DARE the SCOTUS tell a lower court they need to correctly apply laws within their jurisdiction. Damn the nerve![sarcasm off]
    We all saw the results and our nation will be paying the price of GWB for a very long time.
    And this is political hackery at it's finest. There were some good/bad/and iffy things to come out of the Bush presidency and that blanket statement just shows partisanship.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I agree at least with that part. It was one of the worst Supreme Court decisions ever, and not because I disliked its conclusion. Even conservative Constitutional scholars hate it, because it was blatantly and obviously political, and had no precedent.

    The whole matter should have been left to the Florida Supreme Court -- there was no real federal issue. If they had decided for Bush, I think a lot of people would have accepted it and you wouldn't still be hearing gripes about the US S.Ct.

    Seriously, law students will be studying this case for years, along with Dred Scott and Korematsu as some of the court's worst decisions ever, since they were based solely on politics and not law.
    At issue was the FLSC misconstruing recount law to create a recount Gore was not entitled to. The SCOTUS had every right to weigh in, as well the president is a U.S. federal representative so yes the federal DID have every right to make sure a singular state body didn't get a decision wrong.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    At issue was the FLSC misconstruing recount law to create a recount Gore was not entitled to. The SCOTUS had every right to weigh in, as well the president is a U.S. federal representative so yes the federal DID have every right to make sure a singular state body didn't get a decision wrong.
    MMmm hmm. Wonder if you'd say the same thing if they decided Gore won.

    You realize it was a STATE law that the Supreme Court ruled on? Oh, that's right, conservatives only care about state's rights when it gives them the result they want.

    The vast majority of all Constitutional scholars, lawyers and judges will tell you it's a bad decision. That obviously includes many conservatives. Forgive me if I pay attention to experts in the field as opposed to some anonymous guy on the internet.

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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    MMmm hmm. Wonder if you'd say the same thing if they decided Gore won.
    They didn't decide who won. They followed what the law stated about recounts

    You realize it was a STATE law that the Supreme Court ruled on? Oh, that's right, conservatives only care about state's rights when it gives them the result they want.
    Ah ever the predictable liberal you are Groucho.

    The vast majority of all Constitutional scholars, lawyers and judges will tell you it's a bad decision. That obviously includes many conservatives.
    Back that bs statement up. Show us your evidence.

    Forgive me if I pay attention to experts in the field as opposed to some anonymous guy on the internet.
    Forgive us for not taking your word on the subject.
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    Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

    Nah, not going to do your research for you and I'm convinced it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference to you guys in the slightest. You got what you wanted and you don't care how you got it.

    I should point out that unlike you folks, I am NOT an anonymous guy on the internet; I am a practicing attorney, have taught Constitutional law, and while you may disagree with my analysis, I at least know what I'm talking about.

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