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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Well, shuck out a half million dollars a day and you can take as many moments as you want to reassess your options. If you're not willing to pay the cost of waiting, then I advise you to not say we should wait.

    PEOPLE, THIS HAS HAPPENED ONE TIME IN 60 YEARS!!!!! You act like it happens once a week!!!! If airplanes crashed once every 60 years would it make sense to ground the whole god damn fleet of planes to reaccess the safety of flight? C'mon people, use your brains!
    it has not happened ONE TIME in 60 years. good lord........oil spills are not infrequent.

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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't want to argue semantics.
    This isn't semantics, there are resources and then there are their locations. A beach in itself cannot be a resource.
    the fact is tourism supports many areas in the south, as does fishing, none of which would be around if not for the water and the beach.
    And again, without resources the beach would have no utility, it would be a pile of sand with an intemperate body of water.
    i don't think it at all unreasonable to stand back and take a moment to reassess our options.
    And again, the moratorium was found to be outside of the executive's power, the court issued that decree and the mother ****er still did it, that is what this thread is about. As well "stepping back" and assessing is not required at this time, one well blew and it's a tragedy, 1 out of hundreds and this is over decades, not days/weeks/months, this isn't exactly an everyday occurance.
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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it has not happened ONE TIME in 60 years. good lord........oil spills are not infrequent.
    Twice in 30 and only once in U.S. waters. Still quite infrequent.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    the Ixtoc in the Gulf of Mexico spilled out a brutal 140 million gallons in 1980. The blowout preventer also failed on that well, the methods they used to try and cap it were nearly identical to what they are doing today.

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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    the Ixtoc in the Gulf of Mexico spilled out a brutal 140 million gallons in 1980. The blowout preventer also failed on that well, the methods they used to try and cap it were nearly identical to what they are doing today.
    That is correct, it was a bad spill. Again though, two in thirty years and this is comparitively the rarest of industrial accidents. No one is saying it's a good thing, but the moratorium has been found to be illegitimate and ill-advised and we all use oil, all economics are tied to it, and the subject is that the administration is going to go about getting it's way regardless. This is what the hangers on need to remember when discussing Obama.
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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    That is correct, it was a bad spill. Again though, two in thirty years and this is comparitively the rarest of industrial accidents. No one is saying it's a good thing, but the moratorium has been found to be illegitimate and ill-advised and we all use oil, all economics are tied to it, and the subject is that the administration is going to go about getting it's way regardless. This is what the hangers on need to remember when discussing Obama.
    We can just look to Nigeria for a firm example of what happens when **** hits the fan - and the government doesn't have the strength or resources to do anything about it.
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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    We can just look to Nigeria for a firm example of what happens when **** hits the fan - and the government doesn't have the strength or resources to do anything about it.
    Nigeria doesn't care, they want the money and yes it is an environmental worst case. Our situation is much more tenable but it isn't business friendly and that is a problem. This can't be said enough, the moratorium was beaten in court because it was found to be out of the power of the executive branch, the reason for the second one is not related to the legal issue in that they are claiming a depth of drilling argument and this speaks to how weak of a case the administration is willing to provide to impose their own will on the market. The spill is horrid but the politics are the truly disturbing aspect of this.
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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    This is the first time in 60 years that a spill of this magnitude has occured in US waters.

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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I might be mistaken but didn't a report come out not too long ago showing just how many oil rigs could be at risk of the same fate as the BP rig? I think it was in the 1,000s.


    I'm purdy sure you're mistaken. There aren't thousands of drilling rigs in the GOM.

    Obviously there is no proven plan of action if a blowout preventer fails, why not just chill and get some revised safety regulations and plans enacted before we start drilling again? I thought it was a wise move.
    Because there'll be hundreds of thousands of jobs lost, that's why. Not to mention billions of precious tax dollars that Obama believes is so important to economic stimulus.

    I guess jobs weren't Obama's top priority, afterall. His agenda is his top priority.
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    Re: New Offshore Oil Moratorium not Focused on Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    We can just look to Nigeria for a firm example of what happens when **** hits the fan - and the government doesn't have the strength or resources to do anything about it.
    Now that billions od dollars in taxes have been flushed down the toilet, our government is going to have a damn hard time dealing with these situations.
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