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Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

What I cannot do is allow them to continue to use the facade of religion to undermine the tenants of western society.

Yes, your crusade over the internet is sure working LOL

What are you going to do next, justify genocide for Muslims?
 
Would you still be protesting this loudly if it were a Christian Church being built there? Yes or no?

Good question, and honestly, no I would not against a Christian church, Jewish temple, or a Hindu/Buddist temple.

There are two Christian Churches already next to it Trinity and St. John's, but this is not the reason I'd vote no.

I don't have numbers; I am not lumping all Muslims together; and generally, I would not vote no to mosques being built anywhere else. Hell, build one right next door to my house, school, job, etc., BUT, don't build one next to Ground Zero.

On this infamous dates, many Muslims were photographed celebrating the collapse of the Twin Towers. Radical Muslims have declared Juhad (sic) on the USA and the west, and we are at war with Al Queda.

Am I being prejudice? ON THIS ISSUE, HELL YES. Ground Zero is scared, and to build a mosque near it would award those idiots who attacked us.

Sorry
 
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No more so than upity Christians would when a strip club opens next to a church.

Really?

Thousands of Palestinians protested against Denmark this week, and Arab ministers called on it to punish Jyllands-Posten.

Syria and Saudi Arabia have recalled their ambassadors to Denmark, while Libya said it was closing its embassy in Copenhagen and Iraq summoned the Danish envoy to condemn the cartoons.

The Danish-Swedish dairy giant Arla Foods says its sales in the Middle East have plummeted to zero as a result of the row, which sparked a boycott of Danish products across the region.

The offices of Jyllands-Posten had to be evacuated on Tuesday because of a bomb threat.

BBC NEWS | Europe | Muhammad cartoon row intensifies
 
Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux
Actually, the U.S. has a long track record of supporting corrupt, inhumane dictators and monarchies in the middle east, from the shah to the ruling family of Saudi Arabia. And, we did, in fact, "make" Bin Laden and others through our military support of the Taliban freedom fighters during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

That's just basic history, dude.


The US also freed more people and gives more money to more countries than any other nation on earth.

Thats just basic history, dude.

Don't forget that our nation has had more of its citizens sacrifice their lives for freedom than any other nation.
 
Good question, and honestly, no I would not against a Christian church, Jewish temple, or a Hindu/Buddist temple.

There are two Christian Churches already next to it Trinity and St. John's, but this is not the reason I'd vote no.

I don't have numbers; I am not lumping all Muslims together; and generally, I would not vote no to mosques being built anywhere else. Hell, build one right next door to my house, school, job, etc., BUT, don't build one next to Ground Zero.

On this infamous dates, many Muslims were photographed celebrating the collapse of the Twin Towers. Radical Muslims have declared Juhad (sic) on the USA and the west, and we are at war with Al Queda.

Am I being prejudice? ON THIS ISSUE, HELL YES. Ground Zero is scared, and to build a mosque near it would award those idiots who attacked us.

Sorry

There were also Muslims that died in the trade center on 9/11. I guess you don't think they matter much do you? I guess they don't deserve anything because they were filthy Muslims in the eyes of some on this board.

How pathetic that some feel so self-centered to declare ground zero sacred and feel the need to take away from Muslims that died as well.
 
How pathetic that some feel so self-centered to declare ground zero sacred and feel the need to take away from Muslims that died as well.

In Islam, when a so called radical group does something in accordance with their faith, Muslim faith.... like blow up a school bus full of Israeli children, the majority approves or at best are silent, which is in the final analysis just as understood or implied without being stated approval.

We should not make an exception for Islamic barbarism
 
In Islam, when a so called radical group does something in accordance with their faith, Muslim faith.... like blow up a school bus full of Israeli children, the majority approves or at best are silent, which is in the final analysis just as understood or implied without being stated approval.

We should not make an exception for Islamic barbarism

The only barbarism being displayed are your and the other anti-Muslim comments. So far the intolerance in this thread from so called followers of Christianity is disgusting and anti-Jesus.
 
Would Islam allow a Christian church to be built next to Mecca?


j-mac

This is the stupidest post I have read so far in this thread.
And there has been ALOT of stupid posts on this topic.

I just can't ... :lamo
Oh I do love these forums sometimes

Its nice to know prejudices are still alive even 9 years after an event where apparently all Muslims are being held responsible for it.
I'm assuming I can now hold all Americans responsible for every death that has occurred. Well great.
Because Americans have killed way more Muslims than the 3,000 we have apparently all killed.
 
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Your link doesn't refute that Christians would protest if a strip club was built next to a church.

That wasn't what you said, nor was it my point.

Originally Posted by Crunch
think they would bitch?

Originally Posted by TheNextEra
No more so than upity Christians would when a strip club opens next to a church.

Nice try though.
 
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Because Americans have killed way more Muslims than the 3,000 we have apparently all killed.


lol...Thats it. Show your TRUE inner feelings. Show your true side
 
The only barbarism being displayed are your and the other anti-Muslim comments. So far the intolerance in this thread from so called followers of Christianity is disgusting and anti-Jesus.

What are you advocating here, turning the other cheek?
 
A mosque would be a fitting tribute to the people who died that day, and it could be beautiful display of solidarity and unity if people would just let it. It's appalling how much hate this is stirring up, talk about "showing your true side," and the people who oppose the mosque are merely exposing their intolerance and xenophobia. What's truly scary is how many people feel that way.

What are you advocating here, turning the other cheek?

Sounds right to me. What would Jesus do? He'd build a mosque on ground zero, that's what.
 
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A mosque would be a fitting tribute to the people who died that day, and it could be beautiful display of solidarity and unity if people would just let it. It's appalling how much hate this is stirring up, talk about "showing your true side," and the people who oppose the mosque are merely exposing their intolerance and xenophobia. What's truly scary is how many people feel that way.

Nobody I know or have read is opposing the Mosque.... they are opposing the location of the Mosque, same as the people that want to build the Mosque would oppose a Catholic church in Mecca.

Nice try for a strawman....
 
A mosque would be a fitting tribute to the people who died that day, and it could be beautiful display of solidarity and unity if people would just let it. It's appalling how much hate this is stirring up, talk about "showing your true side," and the people who oppose the mosque are merely exposing their intolerance and xenophobia. What's truly scary is how many people feel that way.



Sounds right to me. What would Jesus do? He'd build a mosque on ground zero, that's what.

No way. Islam is illegal and immoral to our societal mores.
 
lol...Thats it. Show your TRUE inner feelings. Show your true side

WTS common sense :roll:

Read my post genius.
If you are going to hold me responsible for 9/11.
When A. I was still a kid.
And B. I didn't steer the planes into the towers

I can similarly use that same "logic" to hold every single American responsible for deaths caused by other Americans.
 
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What are you advocating here, turning the other cheek?

Turning the other cheek is a good way to get slapped again.
 
A mosque would be a fitting tribute to the people who died that day, and it could be beautiful display of solidarity and unity if people would just let it.

LOL Wow are you out of touch.

It's appalling how much hate this is stirring up, talk about "showing your true side," and the people who oppose the mosque are merely exposing their intolerance and xenophobia. What's truly scary is how many people feel that way.

Yes it about his hate, not yours. :roll:

Sounds right to me. What would Jesus do? He'd build a mosque on ground zero, that's what.

Yes. Always assume you would know what Jesus would do. LOL
 
Nobody I know or have read is opposing the Mosque.... they are opposing the location of the Mosque, same as the people that want to build the Mosque would oppose a Catholic church in Mecca.

Nice try for a strawman....

It's New York City, USA, not Mecca, Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have their own issues with religious tolerance, but last I checked two wrongs don't make a right.

And furthermore the people opposing "the mosque" are opposing the mosque on ground zeo, y'know, the one this whole thread is about. Those are the people I'm talking about.

I don't think you really understand what a straw man fallacy is. It's what you just did to me.
 
LOL Wow are you out of touch.
Out of touch with Tea Party racism. Gladly.

Yes. Always assume you would know what Jesus would do. LOL

I don't have to assume, He told me Himself:

Jesus said:
Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Always amazes me when people do complex mental gymnastics to avoid the plain meaning of the words of Jesus. It's tough living the life Jesus expected of you, but it's not hard to understand what He wanted.
 
It's New York City, USA, not Mecca, Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have their own issues with religious tolerance, but last I checked two wrongs don't make a right.

And furthermore the people opposing "the mosque" are opposing the mosque on ground zeo, y'know, the one this whole thread is about. Those are the people I'm talking about.

I don't think you really understand what a straw man fallacy is. It's what you just did to me.

I call bull**** to the nth degree. You simply can't declare a bunch of barbaric practices a religion and allow that horse**** behavior to spread for to do so is to deny the very tenants that our society is based upon
 
It's New York City, USA, not Mecca, Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have their own issues with religious tolerance, but last I checked two wrongs don't make a right.
One wrong doesn't make a right either, and building a trophy Mosque on Ground Zero is wrong.
And furthermore the people opposing "the mosque" are opposing the mosque on ground zeo, y'know, the one this whole thread is about. Those are the people I'm talking about.
Duhhhhhhhhhh.......
I don't think you really understand what a straw man fallacy is. It's what you just did to me.

Wrong again... I used an example..... do I have to link the definition or do you know what that is?
 
WTS common sense :roll:

Read my post genius.
If you are going to hold me responsible for 9/11.
When A. I was still a kid.
And B. I didn't steer the planes into the towers

I can similarly use that same "logic" to hold every single American responsible for deaths caused by other Americans.

Don't you understand that it is not ****ing possible to be both a Muslim and a British or American as these systems are incompatible at a philosophical level.
 
I call bull**** to the nth degree. You simply can't declare a bunch of barbaric practices a religion and allow that horse**** behavior to spread for to do so is to deny the very tenants that our society is based upon

It amazes me that people think everyone else's religions is "a bunch of barbaric practices" but fail to see that so is their's. You try to act like your religion isn't just as insane. Believing that 2000 year old jewish carpenterr died for you sins and it was planned by a giant bearded all knowing "MAN" who lives in the sky.
 
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