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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The word "provocation" implies that the resultant act is a product of the first -- a direct justification.

    So when a group of saudis runs a couple of airplanes into the wtc, killing 3000 Americans, it just makes perfect sense because an economic policy shared by the United States and other western countries towards the leader of Iraq somehow forced that leader to gas Kurds, restrict important supplies to political cronies and run the country just like he always ran it.

    Got it.

    That's just as brilliant of an analysis as justifying my killing of your dog because a neighbor girl back in 1983 snipped a few of my flowers without asking.


    Yep -- It all makes such perfect sense.
    The sanctions would have had the same effect regardless of how Saddam had ruled or what he'd done with the trickle of supplies we allowed into the country. That's what they were designed for.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Terrorist supporters? yes.
    Really? Does that mean I am a terrorist supporter?

    Go ahead, accuse me of being a terrorist supporter.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    You also have to remember that for every person willing to actually kill for a cause, there are 10 who are willing to do something slightly less, such as hire a car or rent an apartment or buy a plane ticket.

    Then there are 100 who would gladly donate money to something they honestly believed was a "charity", and would be more than willing to look the other way if assertions were made that the "charity" was actually a front for raising money for terrorists.
    Ooo, I just know you've got actual statistics to back up those assertions.

    You can prove what you just said, right?
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    That is why they are a risk. If you truly believe your religion, then God comes before anything else. The problem is, Islam calls for the subjugation and conversion of the world, by all means, including lying, murder and terror.

    So as much as you may wish to be PC tolerant, every Muslim is a potential terrorist.
    So I guess every patriot, who believes country comes before anything else, is a potential terrorist?

    Every parent, who believes the well-being of their children comes before everything else, is a potential terrorist?
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Ferris, I've cited references, but I can't make you understand or accept them. You're on your own with that.
    What references when? Where is the citation that we were engaged in a war which killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims prior to 9-11? Where is the citation for the coup that we are responsible for which resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of Muslims prior to 9-11? And where is the citation pointing to the blockade which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims prior to 9-11? How about any lengthy blockade that the U.S. has engaged in since the blockade of Cuba?

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    for example the killing of over a million Iraqis with economic sanctions.
    How do economic sanctions kill anyone? The U.N. neither banned medical or food supplies to Iraq. The oil embargo was the direct result of the actions Saddam Hussein not the U.S. or anyone else. Apparently not conducting trade with a certain country equates to murder in your backwards world.

    Oh and FYI those statistics regarding the amount of deaths resulting from the embargoe were provided by the ****ing Baathists running Iraq.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    The sanctions would have had the same effect regardless of how Saddam had ruled or what he'd done with the trickle of supplies we allowed into the country. That's what they were designed for.
    Um Saddam found the money to build himself lavish palaces, it's not our fault Saddam cared about himself more than he cared about the welfare of his own people, the sanctions blocked neither food or medical supplies. Furthermore; if Saddam had complied with the U.N. the sanctions would not have been imposed in the first place. Seriously place blame where blame is due IE on the shoulders of the man who ignored international law and enaged in a war of conquest against Kuwait and refused to abide with the terms of the armistice.
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    And you, as a member of the male species are a potential rapist.

    Now, shoo. I'm busy talking to interesting people.
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    None are so blind, as those who cannot see...
    Talk about self-diagnosis...
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Talk about self-diagnosis...
    If anyone thinks that this is not a religious fight to the death they are kidding themselves. I'm all for separation of church and state. IsLAM finds this incomprehensible and another reason to wipe us off the planet. We can argue all we want amongst ourselves and they will see it as weakness while we say its our right to free speech. They don't care about our rights; its part of what they want to see destroyed.

    And it's not just Islam, it is the cultures around the world that are Islamic. Sunni, Shi'a, and the differences in Sunni Islam itself...Schools of Islamic jurisprudence, plus cults like the Wahabis , it appears that the Koran and Hadith provide ample latitude for an interpretation that Jihad against unbelievers is a continuing duty for all Muslims.

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