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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Doesn't seem that anything in those articles suggests FOR SURE it will be 9/11. I didn't now NYPOST was a solid source these days?

    If the opening of their article is "A mosque rises over Ground Zero."

    Sensationalism much? First of all, its a community centre, with a mosque inside. Second its two blocks away and won't "Rise" Over ground Zero.
    A) It's a huge Mosque.

    B) You asked for sources I provided sources, if you don't like the sources find a source which contradicts mine. The New York Post is the 13 oldest newspaper in this country and the oldest to be published continously as a daily and it is the 6th largest newspaper in the country.

    C) Here's an article from CNN authored by former Congressman Rick Lazio:

    Now Imam Rauf wants to build and lead a $100 million, 13-story community center and mosque. It would be constructed on property currently occupied by a historic 150-year-old building that was seriously damaged by the landing gear of one of the hijacked jetliners that flew into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and he wants to unveil it on September 11, 2011.

    Who's paying for the ground zero Islamic center? - CNN.com
    This is a clear intent to incite especially considering the record of the largest proponent of the Mosque who is on record saying that Bin Laden is "Made in the U.S.A." that "American politics were an accessory to 9-11," and refused to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Not really. It just prevents them from adding a minaret to their Mosques. They're still free to build as many of those as they want.
    It absolutely does send a signal that Muslims aren't wanted... Yes or no?

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Swiss Muslims are a lot more secular than you might expect, and in an effort to show their friends and neighbors that they didn't represent any kind of threat to Swiss society, many of them voted for the ban.

    The people behind the ban effort expended so much time and effort demonizing the Muslims, that many of them wanted to make this concession to allay any fears their countrymen might have.

    As it is, the minarets are mainly symbolic, as Swiss noise ordinances make calls to prayer from their heights all but impossible.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    A) It's a Huge Mosque
    Community Centre with a mosque inside it...

    From your article
    Congressman Rick Lazio: Editor's note: Former Rep. Rick Lazio served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1993 to 2001, representing the 2nd Congressional District. He is the Republican nominee for governor of New York running against Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, who is the New York state attorney general.

    The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Rick Lazio.
    Wow, how about that, wouldn't opposing the Mosque with lies and hyperbole be a great way to gain votes?

    This is a clear intent to incite especially considering the record of the largest proponent of the Mosque who is on record saying that Bin Laden is "Made in the U.S.A." that "American politics were an accessory to 9-11," and refused to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization.
    I want proof. And not "Jihad Watch"

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    All that needs to be done, is send some gays into the mosque, have them refused entry because they're gay, then the imam will be in violation of federal law. Then, it'll be legal to run his out of town on a rail.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    All that needs to be done, is send some gays into the mosque, have them refused entry because they're gay, then the imam will be in violation of federal law. Then, it'll be legal to run his out of town on a rail.
    Federal law requires that homosexual folks be granted entrance to religious structures?


    TED,
    Talking about the mosque portion, not the community center.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Federal law requires that homosexual folks be granted entrance to religious structures?


    TED,
    Talking about the mosque portion, not the community center.
    Wasn't there a bill passed recently that disallowed churches from discriminating against gays?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    News to me, which is why I'm asking you for specifics.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    News to me, which is why I'm asking you for specifics.
    I researched it, it was a city ordinance that was passed in Memphis that disallowed churches from discriminating against gay worshipers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    It absolutely does send a signal that Muslims aren't wanted... Yes or no?
    No, it absolutely does not. You are being way too simplistic. If we wanted to send out that signal we would ban the building of Mosques. The underlying message to Muslims, if you really must read one into it, is that they are welcome here as long as they make an effort to integrate and blend in. Mosques are welcome as they are non intrusive. Minarets are not, because they clash with the Swiss scenery. I **** you not, this was the argument a lot of people who voted for the ban gave.

    Other than that, as TED said, our Muslim population is very secular and integrated (the majority hail from the Balkans, we have very few Muslims of Arabic origin here) and many of them actually voted for the ban. A Swiss-Moroccan lady was on TV explaining that minarets are not a religious requirement and that she voted to ban them because social peace was more important to her.
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