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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    Right, says the guy who can't properly respond to arguments, nor form them. You can say whatever you want to say, you're wrong anyways.
    Right, says the guy whose response to arguments he can't reasonably refute is to say "I'm done responding."

    Didn't you say you were done responding?

    I could've sworn you were done responding.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Your question is irrelevant and so is the last 43 pages of absolute bull**** you spew. This isn't about radical islam or how christianity is better or how big Angelinas tits are. You've spent 100s of pages on this forum posting post after post of hateful crap.

    This thread is about the legality of building this mosque. If you can't talk about the topic at hand. Then i suggest you go lock yourself in a bunker with 1000 cans of tuna, with plenty of guns and ammo. And I'll go live my life free of fear and prejudice.

    People are free or they're not. And it is not your right to deny them that freedom when it suit you.
    You gotta calm down, dude....

    I would have no problem living peacefully with Islam if they would handle their nut jobs. But they won't. They leave them to us and make it our problem.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    1) Theocracy -- which is why a separation of church and state is good, despite how much that concept makes many conservatives here whine and moan.

    2) Decentralization -- There is no equivalent in Islam for the Holy See or Vatican City or the Pope. The closest is the fact that the Saudi's own Islam's holiest locale, but even then that doesn't give them any kind of authority to do anything but deny pilgrims passage.

    3) Isolation

    Those are just a few good reasons.
    Hmmm....if you go back a couple of pages (if not this thread) you'll know, I am against a theocratic government, whatever the religion. Including Christianity.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'll go live my life free of fear and prejudice.

    Man, put down the bong dude....You wouldn't be able to live your life free of prejudice because you carry your own with you.


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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    I'm not advocating a war of extermination in any way. What I am advocating is defense of our interests. If we fail to defend our culture, beliefs, and society aginst this predatory and aggressive medieval cult, then we don't deserve to exist as free men. Anything that you cannot (or will not) protect, isn't going to remain yours for long.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I'm not advocating a war of extermination in any way. What I am advocating is defense of our interests. If we fail to defend our culture, beliefs, and society aginst this predatory and aggressive medieval cult, then we don't deserve to exist as free men. Anything that you cannot (or will not) protect, isn't going to remain yours for long.
    and you probably won't rest until all brown people are gone from this Earth. You sir are a bigot, sounds like you aren't ashamed either which is shameful.
    I use a lot of satire and sarcasm so keep that in mind when reading my posts.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    and you probably won't rest until all brown people are gone from this Earth. You sir are a bigot, sounds like you aren't ashamed either which is shameful.
    I'm going to repeat a point I made in another post. The Bill of Rights has not been interpreted by the Court to be without some reasonable restrictions. Freedom of speech stops at libel, slander, yelling fire in a crowded theater (when there is no fire), etc. A logical limitation on the 2nd Amendment would be the exclusion of criminals and the mentally insane from the right to keep and bear arms....All reasonable

    For the same reason, I believe there can be a reasonable restriction on freedom of religion. If you worship Quetzelcoatl, you aren't going to be allowed to cut out someone's heart for a sacrifice. A Kali worshipper can't strangle a sacrifical victim and the druids can't burn a man in a basket at Samhain.

    For the same reason, I think that sooner or later, we must prohibit Islam in this country. The Koran and Hadith commands Muslims to convert the world to Islam by peaceful means if possible, by deception and violence if necessary. The options are to pay a dhimmi tax if you are a Jew or Christian, convert to Islam or die. Atheists don't get to keep the option of not believing. If their numbers were small, or they were otherwise incapable of making good on their commandment, then it wouldn't be much of an issue. But their numbers continue to grow both in this country and in others and their means of waging war now constitute a clear and present danger to the US.

    Whether their beliefs are true and Allah is the one and only God or not is irrelevant. The issue is whether they are a threat or not.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    The massive majority of them are not a threat. Just like the massive majority of Fundamentalist Christians are not a threat but still a select few will shoot up abortion clinics. We don't lump all Christians in with those nuts so why do it with Muslims?
    I use a lot of satire and sarcasm so keep that in mind when reading my posts.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    The massive majority of them are not a threat. Just like the massive majority of Fundamentalist Christians are not a threat but still a select few will shoot up abortion clinics. We don't lump all Christians in with those nuts so why do it with Muslims?
    Which mainstream Christian sect still calls for the death penalty and/or corporal punishment for apostasy, adultery, sodomy, and/or premarital sex? FYI those are the only accepted views within mainstream Islam today, there is not one of the five main schools of Islamic fiqh in which the Ulama has not ruled through Ijma as such.

    Now are there Muslims who don't believe that? Yes. But that says about as much as a pro-choice Catholic about the Catholic view on abortion.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I don't give a goddamn what you haters think. You've made up your mind...

    Sure as hell ain't gonna convince me that 1/6th of our planet who are Muslim all prescribe to radical islam and are inherently evil and want to convert me or kill me.

    I live between 2 muslim families and they are the nicest people on Earth, very religious but generous, and very open, i wonder if those amazing cakes they send us have Islam converting butter in them...
    I'm not a Muslim hater, and you are right, there are many, many nice Muslims who are not terrorists and are friendly. But there are also a lot of Muslims who are anti-west, and pro-Bin Laden. It is these people who are not good.

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    The massive majority of them are not a threat. Just like the massive majority of Fundamentalist Christians are not a threat but still a select few will shoot up abortion clinics. We don't lump all Christians in with those nuts so why do it with Muslims?
    I applaud your stance of trying to be fair to everyone BCR, but I think in this case its somewhat different.

    One thing we don't see much, at least I don't see it, is the speaking out against terrorism by other Muslims. If you don't believe in terrorism, you should condemn it, especially if the people are using the same religion in your name to conduct terrorism. Muslims should be protesting against Bin Laden and Al Queda, instead we see protests against the Danish cartoons and protests against US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. What I would hope would be Imams issuing Fatwahs against terrorism and Bin Laden, but I haven't seen it on a wide scale so far.

    About the Christian terrorists, if there's few groups that pop up every now and then that can be understood, but when there's numerous terrorist organizations that are transformed into a global movement, something has to be up and there's something strange going on.

    And also, the whole India/Pakistan problem. Both were part of the same state, but after they were partitioned, one became a source of terror, while the other became a more peaceful and tolerant nation. Both differ primarily due to religion.

    I hope you guys don't hate on me for trying to respond to your posts, I'm just trying to explain a different position.

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