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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I think you're due for one. You're hateful arguments are sure getting old buddy.
    The real intolerance here is in not wishing to allow opposing points of view.....Remember while you point, there are three fingers pointing back at you.....


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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I think you're due for one. You're hateful arguments are sure getting old buddy.
    You can't answer it?

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    I don't give a goddamn what you haters think. You've made up your mind...

    Sure as hell ain't gonna convince me that 1/6th of our planet who are Muslim all prescribe to radical islam and are inherently evil and want to convert me or kill me.

    I live between 2 muslim families and they are the nicest people on Earth, very religious but generous, and very open, i wonder if those amazing cakes they send us have Islam converting butter in them...

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I don't give a goddamn what you haters think. You've made up your mind...

    Sure as hell ain't gonna convince me that 1/6th of our planet who are Muslim all prescribe to radical islam and are inherently evil and want to convert me or kill me.

    I live between 2 muslim families and they are the nicest people on Earth, very religious but generous, and very open, i wonder if those amazing cakes they send us have Islam converting butter in them...
    Enough of your rant. Let tac answer the Q.

    If you don't have the intellectual capacity to answer then stay off the thread, dude

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Enough of your rant. Let tac answer the Q.

    If you don't have the intellectual capacity to answer then stay off the thread, dude
    Your question is irrelevant and so is the last 43 pages of absolute bull**** you spew. This isn't about radical islam or how christianity is better or how big Angelinas tits are. You've spent 100s of pages on this forum posting post after post of hateful crap.

    This thread is about the legality of building this mosque. If you can't talk about the topic at hand. Then i suggest you go lock yourself in a bunker with 1000 cans of tuna, with plenty of guns and ammo. And I'll go live my life free of fear and prejudice.

    People are free or they're not. And it is not your right to deny them that freedom when it suit you.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Islam has never gone through a renaissance or a reformation. Why?
    1) Theocracy -- which is why a separation of church and state is good, despite how much that concept makes many conservatives here whine and moan.

    2) Decentralization -- There is no equivalent in Islam for the Holy See or Vatican City or the Pope. The closest is the fact that the Saudi's own Islam's holiest locale, but even then that doesn't give them any kind of authority to do anything but deny pilgrims passage.

    3) Isolation

    Those are just a few good reasons.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    We have people in lawmaking positions right now that don't consider the Constitution any obstruction to their will.
    Okay, well, if you're going to just throw up your hands and say that the highest law in the land doesn't matter or can't be enforced, then let's just shoot all the people we disagree with so that they don't get what they want, even if it's unConstitutional.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So what? Do you denounce Hamas as a terror org? Or do you support them?
    How is that any of your business whatsoever?

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    I would think it is if it is coming from a terror group, or Iran at a time of war.
    If you can prove it, it's our business. If you can't, it's nobody's business. Innocent until proven guilty.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Plenty of cases where the over burdensome hand of government steps in to push, or stop something that you have no problem with as long as it is effecting Americans, now that it is a Muslim Imam jabbing a finger in America's eye with this travesty, you're ok with it....And you libs wonder why it is that we on the right claim that liberals side with America's enemies.
    Are you basing this on anything I've actually said, or are you just labeling me as "liberal" and dismissing me accordingly?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Again, I did not in any way exclude the radicals in my estimation of Islam. What I did was to look at Muslims in whole, and say to myself, "What's the general norm? Are the majority of Muslims peaceful, or not?" Since I don't see any evidence that suggests that the vast majority of Muslims are anything but peaceful, it stands to reason that the violent Muslims are very much in the minority and therefore "radical."
    Yes, you are trying to exclude radicals, because you are saying that we should only look at the more numerous Muslims and should classify the radicals as a minority. Every religion has a "majority" of peaceful members, and only a minority of non-peaceful members, this is nothing significant. Islam has a large global following of radicals that is more than other religions and many of them have turned from being mainstream to becoming radical, that is the point you are not acknowledging.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Wait -- so you're saying it doesn't matter if the vast minority of Muslims are violent? The peaceful majority is to be held accountable for the actions of the nujobs?
    I didn't say the majority is accountable for the actions of the others, I said there is a correlation between terrorism and Islam and when you look at Islam as a whole, you have to include everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Um, by that description, they were peaceful protests. Peaceful doesn't mean "not angry" or "not symbolically burning things."
    Burning something with the intent to destroy is violent.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Then I guess DP is just packed full of radicals, huh?
    Right, do DP members go out and burn effigies and flags of the other members whenever they are criticized?

    I think I'm done responding to your posts, there is just endless misunderstanding.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    Yes, you are trying to exclude radicals, because you are saying that we should only look at the more numerous Muslims and should classify the radicals as a minority. Every religion has a "majority" of peaceful members, and only a minority of non-peaceful members, this is nothing significant. Islam has a large global following of radicals that is more than other religions and many of them have turned from being mainstream to becoming radical, that is the point you are not acknowledging.
    Look, repeating yourself over and over doesn't make it so -- I didn't exclude radicals from my estimation. The original intent, to begin with, was to define them as radicals by WordNet's definition of the word, and you somehow took that to be that I was excluding them somehow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    Burning something with the intent to destroy is violent.
    No, it isn't. Destroying your own property, for any reason much less in protest, is not violent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    Right, do DP members go out and burn effigies and flags of the other members whenever they are criticized?
    I wouldn't know, I suppose we should have the FBI investigate that -- just to be safe!

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    I think I'm done responding to your posts, there is just endless misunderstanding.
    More like deliberate obtuseness on your part.

    Anyway, have fun!
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    More like deliberate obtuseness on your part.

    Anyway, have fun!
    Right, says the guy who can't properly respond to arguments, nor form them. You can say whatever you want to say, you're wrong anyways.
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