Do you think thats a reasonable and fair assessment. If not, why?
About as much as the Barbary pirates.Originally Posted by Agent Ferris
You're right...Muslims in general are about as imperialistic as Christians. I'm glad we agree on that. This means they can be peaceful or violent, depending on the circumstances. In the case of radical Islam as we know it today, the West has fostered the tendency to violence.Originally Posted by Agent Ferris
Iran in 1953, for example. Probably also Turkey in 1980.Originally Posted by Agent Ferris
Congragulations you pointed to an article referencing an era before the United States was even a country to show that prove some act or another committed by the United States.Yes, it is. If you're pointing out that America changed over time and that the democratic United States were different from the theocratic colonies that existed a few generations before, congratulations. You're starting to get it.
In the early 1700s before the formation of the United States. And exactly why are you using actions from 300 years ago in an attempt to justify the actions of today?
No, if you read the link you'll see that it has nothing to do with that. It's about death penalty laws in the early 1700s that applied only to blacks.
The name of the case isn't given probably because no such case ever took place.The name of the case isn't given. What difference does it make?
Lawrence V. Texas found a right to privacy in consensual sexual relations so it sure as hell would. Tell me sir when is the last time anyone was ever put in jail for adultery in the U.S., oh and do name the case rather than cite an named case listed by an advertisement for a law firm so we can ascertain the veracity of the claim being made.Lawrence v. Texas doesn't necessarily apply to adultery, and even if it does, it's only seven years old.
But we will never know for sure because she has gone missing and I presume dead.Maybe.
No that's a fact.That's your opinion.
I didn't mention Muslims I said Islam, and mainstream Islam only accepts the death penalty and/or corporal punishment for adultery, apostasy, sodomy, and premarital sex.But many Muslims choose to work and struggle for free societies despite our efforts to deny them.
We have people in lawmaking positions right now that don't consider the Constitution any obstruction to their will.
So what? Do you denounce Hamas as a terror org? Or do you support them?
I would think it is if it is coming from a terror group, or Iran at a time of war.
I think, unless sufficient evidence is uncovered that the law is being broken or there's a conspiracy to break it, we have no grounds whatsoever for knowing who is behind it.
Plenty of cases where the over burdensome hand of government steps in to push, or stop something that you have no problem with as long as it is effecting Americans, now that it is a Muslim Imam jabbing a finger in America's eye with this travesty, you're ok with it....And you libs wonder why it is that we on the right claim that liberals side with America's enemies.
Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Alexis de Tocqueville
The Barbary Pirates were the AQ of their time, you asserted that we have never had a problem with Islam, that it is we who have provoked them, this is a lie not only because we did nothing to bring this on ourselves but because they have been unjustifiably attacking the U.S. nearly since our founding.About as much as the Barbary pirates.
Islam has been violent and expansionist since Mohammad perpetrated genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Jewish Banu tribes of the Arabian penninsula. Are you saying that after Mohammad that Islam suddenly became peaceful? When exactly did this peaceful Islam exist only for the evil west to bring the violence out of them? Why exactly do you blame the victim for the actions of the attacker?You're right...Muslims in general are about as imperialistic as Christians. I'm glad we agree on that. This means they can be peaceful or violent, depending on the circumstances. In the case of radical Islam as we know it today, the West has fostered the tendency to violence.
Ya you are a historical newbie here aren't you? No matter how many times I have to smash down you revisionist historians it never gets old. Mossadeq was not elected, he was appointed by the Shah, upon being appointed by the Shah and ratified by the Majiles he proceeded to dissolve the Iranian Parliament through a fraudulent referendum and extend his emergency powers indefinately, it wasn't a coup against Mossadeq it was a counter coup by the Iranian Constitutional Monarchy.Iran in 1953, for example.
Proof or GTFO.Probably also Turkey in 1980.
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