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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Yes it is their right, but it is our right to protest these POS's and their violent and oppressive ideology. They decided to hold the groundbreaking on 9-11 with the clear intent to incite, those who defend their right to the Mosque I have no problem with, those who move beyond that and start defending the group or mainstream Islamic dogma which is completely antithetical to a liberal free society can GFTS's.
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I understand its hard for you to fully grasp this but the property rights are not the only concern.
    In the context of their legal right to do what they want with the land they privately own, it is the only concern. Your problem is you're a fake conservative and you're having a problem being consistent.

    The source of the funds and the statements from the imam also come into play.
    Are you seriously suggesting that every Islamic entity is funded by terrorists? Wow. I didn't know the deep end of the pool was that deep.

    Being a conservative does not mean you are a walking zombie. Its clear you have no grasp of the obvious which is itself ironic.
    Read your own post. All I see is a bunch of fake conservatives who have no respect for private property laws when it comes to entities they don't like.
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    BULL****!
    Laws are written by men, men can change them.
    Indeed we can.

    So you're saying that we should bar specific groups from engaging in other wise perfectly legal activities within their legal rights purely because we don't like
    them?

    So we should bar YOU from owning property purely because we don't like you?

    Think for a change. It will do you good. Like milk!
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I am honestly shocked and disgusted that people are trying to violate the religious rights of others and the right to their property. Sure, building the mosque is bad taste and they can expect vandalism and protests. But it's even worse to violate the religious freedoms of others and have the government illegally breach a groups right to their property. I would say opposing the mosque and forcing it to not be build is very unconstitutional.
    Congradulations Disgbe. You are the first real conservative in this thread. The rest are fakes who only believe in private personal property rights when it fits their beliefs.
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Congradulations Disgbe. You are the first real conservative in this thread. The rest are fakes who only believe in private personal property rights when it fits their beliefs.
    Pretty much.

    I'll say another thing, I find the argument that "Well they wouldn't let us build a church in mecca" argument to be ridiculous.

    First of all... New York is not Mecca, or a religious centre of any kind for any religion.

    Second the argument that "Well they wouldn't" I don't think stands for this reason: You feel you're are culturally superior... and so you're then gonna stoop to their level within your own argument?

    I love the way that suddenly there's a democrat in the White House and everyone and their dog is suddenly a constitutional scholar. Hell some are calling for the impeachment of Obama... ok? *Confused* But hey, **** the constitution when it's something you don't agree with, **** freedom of religion, **** private property rights.

    Perhaps its slightly distasteful or something. But fear and ignorance are what will lead to a deeper rift and hatred between your two peoples.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Pretty much.

    I'll say another thing, I find the argument that "Well they wouldn't let us build a church in mecca" argument to be ridiculous.
    Especially since it's grade school. "He hit me first!" Furthermore, effectively that argument means we should act like them. That we aren't any better then the theocratic fascists in Riyadh, the capital of a country where 15 of the 19 hijackers came from. That I find offensive. I like to think that America is more advanced then the towel heads in Saudi Arabia and more tolerant. I guess some people here think we shouldn't be. Let's be like the Saudis! Oh wait.

    First of all... New York is not Mecca, or a religious centre of any kind for any religion.
    That is frankly irrelevant. Even in religious centers, to ban other religion's places of worship is a sign of how weak your religion really is. I don't care much for Islam, but we are better then this. Well, some of us at least.

    Second the argument that "Well they wouldn't" I don't think stands for this reason: You feel you're are culturally superior... and so you're then gonna stoop to their level within your own argument?
    Correct! You've won a million (fake) dollars!
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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Indeed we can.

    So you're saying that we should bar specific groups from engaging in other wise perfectly legal activities within their legal rights purely because we don't like
    them?

    So we should bar YOU from owning property purely because we don't like you?
    No, I'm talking about eminent domain

    Paladino vows 'eminent domain' for ground zero-area mosque - Maggie Haberman - POLITICO.com

    Republican gubernatorial hopeful Carl Paladino is upping the ante in the debate over the planned ground zero-area mosque, saying in a new statewide radio ad that he would use the governmental power of eminent domain to prevent the project from happening.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    It would have been wonderful if we, as a nation, were better than this. If we could come together and recognize that the criminals responsible for the September 11th attacks do not represent the entire Islamic faith or even a significant segment of it. We should be better than this. Freedom of religion is what this country is built on. But it seems that fear of "the other" is overwhelming these values of inclusiveness that always remain just out of reach. We're just beginning to put the shame of Jim Crow apartheid behind us, only to replace it with a new institutionalized bigotry against the Islamic religion. The most bitter irony is that Paladino and his ilk, by fomenting divisiveness, are playing right into the hands of the very criminals who perpetrated the September 11th attacks.

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    The most bitter irony is that Paladino and his ilk, by fomenting divisiveness, are playing right into the hands of the very criminals who perpetrated the September 11th attacks.
    I tell ya what... I, being the magnanimous person I am....We let them build it then claim eminent domain. We demolish, the **** outta it and, we build a museum of fine arts in its place

    I think its a good plan

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    Re: Landmark commission hearing may determine future of ground zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I tell ya what... I, being the magnanimous person I am....We let them build it then claim eminent domain. We demolish, the **** outta it and, we build a museum of fine arts in its place

    I think its a good plan
    The hypocrisy of course is that if your idea was used against a Christian church you would be foaming out the mouth and claiming how Un-American it would be.

    Your un-American ideas will of course be shot down which is a good thing.

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