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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The fact remains, Islam is at war with us, dude. It is a greater threat to western civilization than communism ever was. Failure to recognize that and treat it as the threat it is will eventually lead to our defeat.
    Glad you're joking.

    Look up gallups research on opinion in the islamic world. There are only a few thousand 'islamofascist' warriors according to the US govt. And only a small fraction of muslims are supporters of extremism. A widespread opinion is that the west does not understand or respect islam. Funny that. I cite you as evidence.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Here you go MrVicchio
    Can you ****ing read? Islam is at war with us

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Glad you're joking.

    Look up gallups research on opinion in the islamic world. There are only a few thousand 'islamofascist' warriors according to the US govt. And only a small fraction of muslims are supporters of extremism. A widespread opinion is that the west does not understand or respect islam. Funny that. I cite you as evidence.
    "WE" are not engaged in a religious war.... trying to impose a religion on Muslims, but there is a centuries long religions war in which they are trying to force their religion on everyone else.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Thats a new one. Weird how my class on islam and all demographic work all say something completely different.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Conservatives jump all over the chance to talk about how many acts of terrorism muslims commit, how their religion "commands them to make war on infidels," and all sorts of stuff like that. They get incensed when someone dares build a mosque.. well, pretty much anywhere, but within some arbitrary distance from the former WTC site? Outrageous!

    You may not have heard people use the term war, but that is the gist of the sentiment. (besides, I have heard the term war used)
    You really think that this is a "conservative thing"? If Gallup ever gets around to a nation wide poll question asking, "Are you supportive of a 13 story Islamic mosque being built at the site of the World Trade Center massacre?".....do you think the only negative votes would come from conservatives?

    I'm guessing no....


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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Thats a new one. Weird how my class on islam and all demographic work all say something completely different.
    Then you aren't being taught about what the Qur'an actually says. Has your class ever looked at religious freedom in Muslim dominated countries? How about women's rights?

    Didn't think so.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Weird how almost all muslim women consider islam their path to freedom, Islam was founded in liberation of women, and those few countries your talking about only compose a fraction of the muslim world. You cant take parts of the qu'ran out of context and twist them into your world view to demonise a religion of 1.3 billion people but something tells me youll insult them so badly with your ignorance you just might make good people turn into terrorists and want to chop your head off with a machete.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Not that I defend those actions. But really, it pisses people off.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Just curious SE102 how many Muslim countries have you been to. I have been to more than a couple and I can say that I don't know where you get that almost all Muslim women think Islam is their path to freedom. And a lot of the ones who do have been pretty much brainwashed into believing what ever they are told. Now I know that this is not true for some Muslim counties but to sit there and pretend that mistreatment of women is not a huge problem in lots of Muslim run areas is putting your head in the sand. Do you think the women who had their genitals mutilated so they wouldn't enjoy sex, or the women who were stoned to death for being raped, or the women who are forced to walk in front of their husbands livestock to protect them from landmines, or the women who are forbidden from going to school think that Islam is their path to freedom. While I know that this is not the way Islam started out but it is what it is becoming in more and more areas. Unlike you I prefer to deal with the way really things are not how we wish they were. And in a lot of Muslim run countries women are second or third class citizens.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Weird how almost all muslim women consider islam their path to freedom, Islam was founded in liberation of women,
    Wow such delightful fantasy. Where did you receive such false information?

    and those few countries your talking about only compose a fraction of the muslim world. You cant take parts of the qu'ran out of context and twist them into your world view to demonise a religion of 1.3 billion people but something tells me youll insult them so badly with your ignorance you just might make good people turn into terrorists and want to chop your head off with a machete.
    How many countries dominated by Islam have religous freedom? How many? I can only think of one.

    I love the taken out of context line. Almost always a sure sign of a defeated opponent.
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