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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You lost 2 pages ago when you couldn't prove your assertion that there are all these peace loving Muslims who are against voilence in the name of Islam.

    You have ZERO evidence to back that up. Period.

    Your excuses of tyrants isn't evidence. Its another one of your worthless theories without factual backing.
    You haven't proven that they condone violence against non-muslims, so my point has not been refuted. The only way to prove me wronbg is by proving that most muslims condone violence against non-muslims and you don't have any evidence of that.

    Sad that there are Msulim haters such as yourself. I look at you much like I look at the KKK, both are full of ignorant hate.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Another pathetic excuse for your inability to support your theories with facts.

    But the Muslim world's support of faith-based violence is not limited to governments and their non-state proxies. Consider a June Pew Global Attitudes poll that showed a majority of Muslims in Jordan, Egypt and Nigeria, as well as roughly a third in France, Spain and Great Britain, felt violence against civilians can be justified in order to defend Islam. Worse, a July 2005 poll found 22 percent of British Muslims said last summer's rush-hour bombings of London's metro system, which killed 52 people, were justified because of Britain's support for the war on terror. This included 31 percent of young British Muslims.

    Islam and Violence

    Thats evidence. Stop insulting us with your baseless theories and find some fact to support yourself.
    So then you are saying these polls are 100% correct right?

    It's really sad that in today's age, there are still hate filled people such as yourself.

    Tell me Text, when you poll the over 1 billion Muslims and they condone violence against non-Muslims, I'll believe you. Until then polling 2000 Muslims and then trying to attribute them to the 1 billion is idiotic at best.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes and with a Pope they too can be like the Catholic church and have a leader for all the child molesters to hide behind.
    You are way the **** out of your lane. Discussion of religious relativism ends here. Members of every ethnic group, every religion, every race, every nation, etc. have committed every crime you can think of. What individuals do is one thing. Whether that behavior is condoned, encouraged or condemned by a religion or political entity is entirely different.


    Your suggestion is funny though, that a religion should just magically make a NEW testament. I wonder if that is exactly how the people that wrote the bible did it.


    There are a few billion Muslims in the world and perhaps 5 percent of them are radicalized. Just to go through your "thought" process....


    If that were true, then one would extrapolate that they would already have contained the issue based on nothing less than a respect for mankind that we're supposed to believe they have, right? However, they've done Jack**** NOTHING to stem their supposed "radicals" who in theory, are bashing the good name of a blue sky peaceful religion that's never had a problem with fighting when they felt like it.

    Do YOU still think that an overwhelming majority of Muslims aren't secretly pleased with the course of events? I don't see how they can have it both ways.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    How many hundreds of years ago do you have to go back for that?
    Not before the point of the discussion when the new testament was written and hence my point. Keep trying to derail.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You lost 2 pages ago when you couldn't prove your assertion that there are all these peace loving Muslims who are against voilence in the name of Islam.

    You have ZERO evidence to back that up. Period.
    Gallup released a book all about it ive linked it in these forums before.

    Amazon.com: Who Speaks For Islam?: What a Billion Muslims Really Think (9781595620170): John L. Esposito, Dalia Mogahed: Books

    Please give it a read. If you're brave enough to face suicidal shame for the garbage you're spouting.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Dont act like we dont know whats going on Im talking with uninformed politically dangerous xenophobes whose point of view is radicalizing muslims and killing our fellow civilians. You're a terrorists excuse.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    If that were true, then one would extrapolate that they would already have contained the issue based on nothing less than a respect for mankind that we're supposed to believe they have, right? However, they've done Jack**** NOTHING to stem their supposed "radicals" who in theory, are bashing the good name of a blue sky peaceful religion that's never had a problem with fighting when they felt like it.

    Do YOU still think that an overwhelming majority of Muslims aren't secretly pleased with the course of events? I don't see how they can have it both ways.
    Okay, now lets review your thought process. All of the intelligence services that bust terrorists in the middle east don't exist. What should they do to bust radicals, considering there are only a few thousand 'jihadists' on earth should they lock down their countries and remove their rights for groups that are responding in a fundamentalist manner to 'OUR' foreign occupations? Are you serious?

    Its not a thought process its a fact that only a small number of them are radicalized.

    But of course, they are all dark evil bearded towelheads who are 'secretly pleased' by terror.

    Stop ****ting out your mouth.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You haven't proven that they condone violence against non-muslims, so my point has not been refuted. The only way to prove me wronbg is by proving that most muslims condone violence against non-muslims and you don't have any evidence of that.
    Actually I have. I've given you links to polls showing majorities in Muslim dominated countries that they believe in voilence in the name of Islam yet you duck them repeatedly.

    My evidence is that plus the lack of outrage from the Muslim community when attacks are carried out in the name of Islam. And you provide no facts whatsoever to counter anything I have given in evidence but worthless theories and your debate skills are so pathetic you don't even attempt to back up your claims with a shred of evidence. Its a sad and pathetic strategy but for you its quite common.

    Sad that there are Msulim haters such as yourself. I look at you much like I look at the KKK, both are full of ignorant hate.

    Yes the standard name calling and common slander. Typical of people like yourself who can't argue or debate. Why support your arguments with facts when you can call someone a KKK member right? It certainly easier than thinking.

    I could call you a terrorist sympathizer as long as we are into the ridiculous name calling scene but that would not further the debate and I would be like you; devoid of any real argument than can be supported with facts so you resort to name calling.

    Typical.
    Last edited by texmaster; 07-15-10 at 05:16 PM.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Why should they when terrorists are radicalized as a result of centuries of foreign occupations of muslim and American foreign policy. The root of the problem isn't theirs.
    lol...

    Just take take a look at the Middle East. Piss poor, underdeveloped nations and an economic elite that is in itself members of the developed world. Saudi Royals, the Mullahs of Iran, Syrian elites (to include Bashar Al Assad)both the heads of Hamas and Fatah etc.They are strangers to none of the comforts that the richest peoples in the world have. Part of their ****ed up program is to maintain economic and political control of their countries, live lavish lifestyles, and if possible blame the internal conditions of their country on the developed world's economic/social/political positions. They have managed to use perceived religious piety (funding madrassas, Hamas, stipends to families of suicide bombers, in the Iranian example Hezbollah) to convince the people/masses that they have a vision for a Caliphate. They (the elites) understand that this is not a reality, but their positions in society rely on their ability to manipulate the masses.

    The leaders of Hamas and Fatah have done nothing but steal money from their own people, the Saudi Royals (I don't even begin to have to expalin the depth of their corruption) and even the Mullahs of Iran live lives of luxury.

    btw Whats the name of your professor? Is she hot?

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