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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It is not my fault. Why should I try and track down terrorists in the ME to please you?

    As far as I am concerned, I am doing enough by ensuring that I or anyone within my community do not turn extreme and help the authorities if needed.

    Eradicate them? Who died and made me God.
    I can't snap my fingers and they all drop dead you know.
    I don't give a **** if you please me. Do it because they bring shame and dishonor upon your religion.

    One would think that people are as devout as Muslims, that really disown the terrorists, would have done something about them, by now.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't give a **** if you please me. Do it because they bring shame and dishonor upon your religion.

    One would think that people are as devout as Muslims, that really disown the terrorists, would have done something about them, by now.
    Of course this is just to appease people like you. I am not going to go traipsing off to Middle East

    Do what about it hm?
    What can I do about something that is happening on the other side of the world?
    How do Muslims go about getting rid of terrorists. Something I may add that US has failed in doing, the most powerful military in the world. I can wait all day for your tactics and plans for us to achieve this "mission"


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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Of course this is just to appease people like you. I am not going to go traipsing off to Middle East

    Do what about it hm?
    What can I do about something that is happening on the other side of the world?

    How do Muslims go about getting rid of terrorists. Something I may add that US has failed in doing, the most powerful military in the world. I can wait all day for your tactics and plans for us to achieve this "mission"
    You can do something about it in your own country. Have you even looked around? Muslims in your country are some of the most anti west in Europe.



    Four out of 10 British Muslims want sharia law introduced into parts of the country, a survey reveals today.

    The ICM opinion poll also indicates that a fifth have sympathy with the "feelings and motives" of the suicide bombers who attacked London last July 7, killing 52 people.


    Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK - Telegraph

    Forty-five percent say 9/11 was a conspiracy by the American and Israeli governments. Tragically, almost one in four British Muslims believe that last year's 7/7 attacks on London were justified because of British support for the U.S.-led war on terror.

    When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" only one in four say it is. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. According to the report, "Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by those laws."

    Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state. This comports with last year's Daily Telegraph newspaper survey that found one-third of British Muslims believe that Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it.


    Many British Muslims Put Islam First - CBS News


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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    As far as I am concerned, I am doing enough by ensuring that I or anyone within my community do not turn extreme and help the authorities if needed.
    No one in my community or family has gone extreme or blown anyone up.

    Job well done in my view.
    I have little to no control over Muslims of other ethnicities or races.


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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No one in my community or family has gone extreme or blown anyone up.

    Job well done in my view.
    I have little to no control over Muslims of other ethnicities or races.
    Just don't deny it isn't a serious problem in your community or pretend the problem is so far away from you your hands are tied.

    Remember this?

    What can I do about something that is happening on the other side of the world?
    Its not just on the other side of the world. Its in your own backyard.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Just don't deny it isn't a serious problem in your community or pretend the problem is so far away from you your hands are tied.

    Remember this?

    Its not just on the other side of the world. Its in your own backyard.
    Not really, what problem?
    Two/Three bombings has occurred in UK committed by Muslims out of UK's long long long history.
    Odds are in my favour it is not going to happen again.

    What community? Mine?
    Do you imagine that somehow Muslims are united in any shape or form? That we are all friends? We dislike each other and we segregate ourselves even during prayer time. By race, sect, culture, ethnicity, tribes, nationality.
    So when you say 'my community'. What do you mean?
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Not really, what problem?
    Two/Three bombings has occurred in UK committed by Muslims out of UK's long long long history.
    Odds are in my favour it is not going to happen again.

    Talk about denial. The Muslim population has only skyrocketed in England in the last 30 years so spare the long long history BS.

    What community? Mine?
    Your country, yes.

    Do you imagine that somehow Muslims are united in any shape or form? That we are all friends? We dislike each other and we segregate ourselves even during prayer time. By race, sect, culture, ethnicity, tribes, nationality.
    So when you say 'my community'. What do you mean?
    Actually yes I've seen it first hand and considering the polls I cited, the consensus seems pretty strong.

    So please, spare us the "its not in my community" bs. It IS in your community and your country. Not some "far away place"

    How do you explain those polls? Oh thats right, you ducked that didn't you?
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Talk about denial. The Muslim population has only skyrocketed in England in the last 30 years so spare the long long history BS.

    Your country, yes.

    Actually yes I've seen it first hand and considering the polls I cited, the consensus seems pretty strong.

    So please, spare us the "its not in my community" bs. It IS in your community and your country. Not some "far away place"

    How do you explain those polls? Oh thats right, you ducked that didn't you?
    LOL
    Talk about stupidity.
    How many successful attacks have there been against the British public by Muslim groups.
    Out of a 2,000 year history of UK and even further. About 3. Maybe you can argue 5.
    Heck the Irish were more of a threat to UK than us Muslims.

    Don't tell me what is my community.

    I can also use polls:
    Large and Growing Numbers of Muslims Reject Terrorism, Bin Laden - World Public Opinion



    Consensus of Muslims?

    Consensus?! 1.2 billion people agreeing on one thing?
    You have exceeded yourself here. We can't even agree on who takes after our Prophet - Still arguing even after 1,500 years and you think we have a consensus on terrorism? Talk about deluded

    There are lies damned lies and statistics

    Unless you have interviewed all 1.2billion of us, your polls means nothing.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I don't know about you, but I believe that targeting and murdering doctors, bombing abortion clinics are acts of terrorism.

    Please show when they have done that.


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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No one in my community or family has gone extreme or blown anyone up.

    Job well done in my view.
    I have little to no control over Muslims of other ethnicities or races.
    I see, "hear no evil, see no evil, do nothing about it".

    If that's your attitude, then don't get on me about insisting that Muslims pick up their own trash.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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