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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The most recent example you could point to would be that ****head Phelps. He has his little fanatic church that follows him. No one else. There aren't little Phelp churches spring up all around and he is opposed by Christians at everyone of his anti-gay rallies or when he decides to descrate some soldier's funeral.

    Pat Robertson? Now you're really reaching. He doesn't represent a large segment of Christianity, let alone a majority. And no one has committed a murder or other act of violence because of his citation of an Old Testament command as justification. And before you bring up the nutcases that have bombed abortion clinics, they have been condemned by most Christians and Christian leaders (99%+ ?), and have been tracked down, captured and prosecuted by people who (most probably) are Christian.
    These radicals muslims that perform violent acts don't represent a large majority either of Islam either. Like Phelps and Robertson, they are radicals.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Both have violent passages and both can be exploited for political gain, as history shows. To me it doesn't matter if one has 100 passages and another has 500. Both can be used to justify killing one in the right hands.
    Actually it does matter if you are trying to equate the two.

    Now answer the question.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    There is nothing irrelevant on that pole. It clearly shows Muslims can't even come to terms with who actually was responsible for 9.11
    Wait? And Americans can?

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Wait? And Americans can?
    Yep you're right

    (Reuters) - About one-quarter of young American Muslims believe to some extent that suicide bombings can be justified to defend Islam...

    the community also contains pockets of support for Islamist militancy among Muslims aged 18-30 and black Muslims, the survey showed.


    Thanks for reminding me

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2244293620070522
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Is this some move to say something completely unrelated to throw me off? It certainly has me confused.

    A) "To some extent" (I cited earlier on that almost all suicide bombings btwn 80 and 04 were in response to foreign occupation). That may include 'slightly'.
    B) More Americans than muslims as a whole believe attacks on civilians are completely justified. Meet the mirror.
    C) "Whole pockets" of support!

    In conclusion. All muslims are bad mmk?

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Is this some move to say something completely unrelated to throw me off? It certainly has me confused.

    A) "To some extent" (I cited earlier on that almost all suicide bombings btwn 80 and 04 were in response to foreign occupation). That may include 'slightly'.
    Of which you provided ZERO proof to that claim.

    B) More Americans than muslims as a whole believe attacks on civilians are completely justified. Meet the mirror.
    C) "Whole pockets" of support!

    In conclusion. All muslims are bad mmk?
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    As usual that makes no sense and of course you fail to back any of it up.

    Come back when you can cite some facts. Until then don't waste our time.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Of course it conflicts with biblical values. Just take a look at the 10 commandments and see which ones are u.s. Law. We are not a theocracy.

    As for the bible being history, that is laughable at best.
    Lmao...It would be almost impossible for the Judeo-Christian values to NOT be a part of our foundation. North America was settled by predominantly Europeans. There was no other religion in Europe throughout that time. The beliefs of slaves or Natives did not play a part in the thinking of European settlers. So there was either Protestant denominations, Catholic, Jewish, or agnostic/atheist.

    And to break it up in little pieces....like a cookie for you

    The majority ethnic European groups were English, Scots, Irish, German, Dutch, French and Spanish. Most of the Irish and all of the Spanish were Catholic. English were mixed, but primarily Protestant. Germans were mixed, Catholic and Lutheran. Dutch were mostly Protestant, etx, etc....all in some degree or another were a product of a Christian society.

    It is impossible to say that our foundations were not Judeo-Christian when that was the only culture known to most of the 13 Colonies.

    You continue to show ignorance.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Lmao...It would be almost impossible for the Judeo-Christian values to NOT be a part of our foundation. North America was settled by predominantly Europeans. There was no other religion in Europe throughout that time. The beliefs of slaves or Natives did not play a part in the thinking of European settlers. So there was either Protestant denominations, Catholic, Jewish, or agnostic/atheist.

    And to break it up in little pieces....like a cookie for you

    The majority ethnic European groups were English, Scots, Irish, German, Dutch, French and Spanish. Most of the Irish and all of the Spanish were Catholic. English were mixed, but primarily Protestant. Germans were mixed, Catholic and Lutheran. Dutch were mostly Protestant, etx, etc....all in some degree or another were a product of a Christian society.

    It is impossible to say that our foundations were not Judeo-Christian when that was the only culture known to most of the 13 Colonies.

    You continue to show ignorance.
    You asked

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    See, if it conflicts with the Biblical values or does it incorporate them

    Yes or no
    And YES, the consitution DOES conflict with BIBLICAL values because we don't follow the 10 commandments as LAW. So again, once your ignorance stops shining through, you might want to actually READ what YOU wrote.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You asked



    And YES, the consitution DOES conflict with BIBLICAL values because we don't follow the 10 commandments as LAW. So again, once your ignorance stops shining through, you might want to actually READ what YOU wrote.
    He said PART not ALL. Learn how to read carefully and you might want to actually think next time before calling someone ignorant after dropping that goose egg
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    He said PART not ALL. Learn how to read carefully.
    WRONG, I quoted what he said above. READ it, it says NOTHING about PART.

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