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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Defeated my ass. Anyone can grab a concordance and jerk random quotes out of context for to try to prove a half assed point like you just. I was just hoping for a little more. You never fail to disappoint though.
    Nice dodge jallman. Way to stay predictable. Running from the facts instead of addressing them

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Now on to this typical blathering. You have no concept of what my fields of study have been in my life and therefore, all your ad hom trying to prove your point by disproving my experience and knowledge is for nothing. Try arguing a topic and you might get somewhere. Try arguing me and you're only going to prove how stupid your stance is.

    But then, you never do learn, do ya sport?
    You are judged by your claims. Make a stupid claim thats easily disproven as you have and you are judged on that claim.

    And since you can't argue the facts and would instead like to live in the world of insults, I think your "fields of study" are well defined.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Nice dodge jallman.
    You didn't present any facts. You lifted a bunch of stuff out of a text file, slapped it in a post, and then strutted and preened like you accomplished something. Typical texmaster MO.

    You are judged by your claims. Make a stupid claim thats easily disproven as you have and you are judged on that claim.
    You might have a point if that had actually happened.

    And since you can't argue the facts and would instead like to live in the world of insults, I think your "fields of study" are well defined.
    And I think you're a bipolar half-wit but our opinions of each other are not the topic here, are they?

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Tell me something, wise one....did I mention the IRA specifically?
    LOL Spare us Jallman. The IRA was the biggest terrorist organization in Northern Ireland and at the center of the conflict since England occupied Northern Ireland. If you weren't referring to them wise one, whom were you referring to with your

    Are you claiming that Ireland has not had a history of Catholic/Protestant conflict
    Enlighten us
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL Spare us Jallman.

    LOLOLOLOLOL spare yourself. You aren't my responsibility.

    The IRA was the biggest terrorist organization in Northern Ireland and at the center of the conflict since England occupied Northern Ireland.
    Did you have a point in stating the obvious?

    If you weren't referring to them wise one, whom were you referring to with your
    Maybe the Provisional Irish Republican Army I thought you were well versed in history and this topic....silly me for thinking you did.

    Enlighten us
    I'm not going to sit here and throw gems before pigs. Everyone in this thread knows your request is insincere and lacking anything remotely likened to honest discussion. If you aren't aware of Catholic/Protestant conflict in Ireland, then you are sorely lacking enough education in this area to be having this discussion at all. I don't believe for a minute that you are ignorant of the issue, though, which leads me to believe that your request is more of your typical mouth breathing antics.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Fair enough. But let's put it this way. Let's say America was in the same shape as say... Afghanistan or Iraq. And the evil imperialists in, I dunno. Beijing are imposing their will on you, and have military bases in your country. And you have nothing, and are told you can have everything if you go and bomb beijing.

    I mean that's highly hypothetical. But if you're led to believe that crap from Birth. It's a possibility.

    First of all, you use a term from the liberal side of things in setting up your hypothetical, America is not "Imposing" its will on anyone. To take that stand is to say that we are somehow acting as some sort of Imperialist country, and we are not.

    We are promoting freedom, and the ability of the people to chose, and standing with other free nations including Israel (which is the real crux of the animus against us)...


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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    WRONG, and what you have just said is not what you and others have been typing.

    I have no problem with what you have said above about RADICAL ISLAM. What I have a problem with is when people associate RADICAL ISLAM with ALL followers of Islam and blame the ENTIRE religion.

    The only reason Christianity is brought up is to show that Christianity too was perverted by some and abused, much like people are doing with Islam now. It isn't the fault of the religion, but the fault of the people that abuse it.

    If you had Christians abusing the doctrine, and killing people in foreign lands based on that religious doctrine, then I am confident that Christians here would be speaking out against it. Where are the members of Islam doing that?

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    First of all, you use a term from the liberal side of things in setting up your hypothetical, America is not "Imposing" its will on anyone. To take that stand is to say that we are somehow acting as some sort of Imperialist country, and we are not.

    We are promoting freedom, and the ability of the people to chose, and standing with other free nations including Israel (which is the real crux of the animus against us)...


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    You are implying that everyone knows the Truth j-mac...

    They dont. Specially not when they're led from birth to believe a certain way.

    And how are hypotheticals a liberal term? Fricking hell. I don't prescribe to such dogmatism.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    If you aren't aware of Catholic/Protestant conflict in Ireland, then you are sorely lacking enough education in this area to be having this discussion at all.
    Do you think its a stretch at all to say that 90% of all significant terrorist incidents in the last 50 years have been perpetrated by Muslim terrorists in the name of Islam?

    Umm....Lets stay with the nationalist/separatist, not religious Irish conflict, wise one for a sec

    Tell me....Has the IRA ever expressed a goal of uniting Ireland under the Church? Has the IRA ever claimed to act as an agent of the Church? Does the IRA even identify itself as Catholic? I don't see the term Catholic anywhere in IRA? Has the Church condoned the actions of the IRA?

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Do you think its a stretch at all to say that 90% of all significant terrorist incidents in the last 50 years have been perpetrated by Muslim terrorists in the name of Islam?
    Here, in the US, no. Worldwide, definitely.

    EDIT: Sorry, my syntax is way off on that one. In the US, most of the terrorist violence of the past 50 years has not been muslim terrorism. Worldwide, it has been.

    Hope that's more clear.

    Umm....Lets stay with the nationalist/separatist, not religious Irish conflict, wise one for a sec
    Lets not because that isn't the issue here, wise one.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Really? What terrorist acts have they committed?


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    I don't know about you, but I believe that targeting and murdering doctors, bombing abortion clinics are acts of terrorism.
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