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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Some people do. But I think the rebuttal with the Christianity argument is that ALL religions have radical elements, I think the difference is... since most Christain nations are western nations, and are rich and have more progressive and better lifestyles those radical elements do not present themselves as often. When you look at the Geo-political and economic realities of the Middle East, the radical elements make sense being there. Since of course it is a scape goat "Well our lives suck now because we strayed too far from Islam" Argument. Which if America went to **** tommorow, would be the same argument of the Christain Right.

    Maybe, maybe not. America has been through tough times in the past, and you could argue that a resurgence of religion took place coinciding with that, however, I think you would be hard pressed to show that in that resurgence of religious times during the hard economic times of religious zealot Americans flying off to bomb and terrorize other nations.


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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. America has been through tough times in the past, and you could argue that a resurgence of religion took place coinciding with that, however, I think you would be hard pressed to show that in that resurgence of religious times during the hard economic times of religious zealot Americans flying off to bomb and terrorize other nations.


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    Fair enough. But let's put it this way. Let's say America was in the same shape as say... Afghanistan or Iraq. And the evil imperialists in, I dunno. Beijing are imposing their will on you, and have military bases in your country. And you have nothing, and are told you can have everything if you go and bomb beijing.

    I mean that's highly hypothetical. But if you're led to believe that crap from Birth. It's a possibility.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Defeated my ass. Anyone can grab a concordance and jerk random quotes out of context for to try to prove a half assed point like you just. I was just hoping for a little more. You never fail to disappoint though.
    The 10 myths about Islam

    Realize however, that it is a death sentence for having written it, a death sentence for all who read it and a death sentence on me for having posted the link

    Here we go.....Ten Myths About Islam Exposing Islamic Lies

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    However, it seems that when ever the discussion on the threat of radical Islam comes up some in here would rather point to Christianity as a justification for what is going on today. It is IMHO, small minded to do such.


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    WRONG, and what you have just said is not what you and others have been typing.

    I have no problem with what you have said above about RADICAL ISLAM. What I have a problem with is when people associate RADICAL ISLAM with ALL followers of Islam and blame the ENTIRE religion.

    The only reason Christianity is brought up is to show that Christianity too was perverted by some and abused, much like people are doing with Islam now. It isn't the fault of the religion, but the fault of the people that abuse it.
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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And I could swear not long ago Catholics and Protestants were bombing each other's cars in Ireland. Hmmmmmmm.....
    Truly ignorance is displayed here.....

    Are you claiming that Northern Ireland was/is a religious conflict? That conflict was/is nationalist/separatist, not religious.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Truly ignorance is displayed here.....

    Are you claiming that Northern Ireland was/is a religious conflict? That conflict was/is nationalist/separatist, not religious.
    True ignorance is displayed here....

    Are you claiming that Ireland has not had a history of Catholic/Protestant conflict?

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    WRONG, and what you have just said is not what you and others have been typing.

    I have no problem with what you have said above about RADICAL ISLAM. What I have a problem with is when people associate RADICAL ISLAM with ALL followers of Islam and blame the ENTIRE religion.

    The only reason Christianity is brought up is to show that Christianity too was perverted by some and abused, much like people are doing with Islam now. It isn't the fault of the religion, but the fault of the people that abuse it.
    You are so wrong, its unbelievable

    If you compare the Christianity and Islam of today, you will find some goofy radical and violent Christians and Christian groups. But those groups are very small, they are condemned publicly and actively with word and deed by other groups, and their violent and radical positions are very clearly refuted by the Bible.

    Islam on the other hand, does not police their radicals themselves except in rare circumstances. The Koran also supports the radical's religious position rather than condemning it.

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    True ignorance is displayed here....

    Are you claiming that Ireland has not had a history of Catholic/Protestant conflict?
    Tell me something, wise one... Was, the IRA acting in the name of The Church or with the Pope's blessing?

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Tell me something, wise one... Was, the IRA acting in the name of The Church or with the Pope's blessing?
    Tell me something, wise one....did I mention the IRA specifically?

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    Re: Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Something else more fun from my book! All studies of suicide attacks from 1980 to 2004 cited foreign occupation as the main reason.
    More fantasy. That must be one hell of a book. lol

    This thing is just full of great stuff. Also only 7% of muslims qualify as radicals!
    Until you can start actually bringing in FACTS to support these laughable conclusions don't bother.
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