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    Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    "It doesn't mean that if the law for whatever reason happened to go into effect, that six months from now, a year from now, we might not look at the impact the law has had ... and see whether or not there has been that racial profiling impact," Holder said. "If that was the case, we would have the tools and we would bring suit on that basis."

    Holder, reacting to the firestorm of criticism from Republicans and border-state lawmakers, said the Justice Department decided to file the suit because Arizona's immigration law is "inconsistent" with federal policy and the U.S. Constitution. He said there's nothing to stop local jurisdictions and states from helping the government enforce immigration law, but described Arizona's law as contradictory to what the federal government is trying to accomplish.
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    So they realize they'll probably lose the first suit and are laying the groundwork for the 2nd.
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    Re: Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    FOXNews.com - Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    So they realize they'll probably lose the first suit and are laying the groundwork for the 2nd.
    They realize the possibility of losing the first suit, yes, and intend to monitor the situation to see whether racial profiling occurs. Seems like it would be fairly easy to track the cases where the citizenship-checking is done to see whether it is applied disproportionately to hispanics.

    So, thanks for the news, I guess?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    I am soooo sick and tired of this "racial profiling argument." It's nothing more than a red herring designed to distract us from the main issue. It's why we search little old ladies' shoes at the airports. If one is to enforce immigration laws in any way, shape or form, we're going to have to profile....as we do in allll law enforcement activities. Ridiculous.

    I was hoping he'd go on to say they were temporarily dropping the lawsuit. The Administration looks like total idiots and against the very principles they're charged to support. This is a huge $$ burden on Arizona -- defending against, what I think, is a frivilous lawsuit.
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    Re: Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They realize the possibility of losing the first suit, yes, and intend to monitor the situation to see whether racial profiling occurs. Seems like it would be fairly easy to track the cases where the citizenship-checking is done to see whether it is applied disproportionately to hispanics.

    So, thanks for the news, I guess?

    Of course more latino's will be questioned... what a dumb statement.
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    Re: Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    Sue the state for being patriotic, you guys make Uncle Sam proud im sure.
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    Re: Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Of course more latino's will be questioned... what a dumb statement.
    So you admit that race will be a factor in determining the "reasonable suspicion" of being illegal? Despite the law supposedly ruling that out?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    @ Deuce -- How else would you suggest ICE or any other enforcement agency determine "reasonable suspicion?" Please answer this question. How else?
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    Re: Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    @ Deuce -- How else would you suggest ICE or any other enforcement agency determine "reasonable suspicion?" Please answer this question. How else?
    Well, if you write a law that says you can't use racial profiling, and tell all of your officers that racial profiling is not ok, I'd imagine something other than racial profiling.
    Last edited by Deuce; 07-11-10 at 04:29 PM.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, if you write a law that says you can't use racial profiling, and tell all of your officers that racial profiling is not ok, I'd imagine something other than racial profiling.
    Who is telling officers that racial profiling is ok?
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    Re: Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Who is telling officers that racial profiling is ok?
    You missed an important word. I bolded for you.
    Last edited by Deuce; 07-11-10 at 04:29 PM.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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