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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So let me get this straight


    People are trying to compare a few people standing outside a polling booth with a night stick to the shooting and killing of an unarmed man as being anywhere near the same level of importance
    Yes, they are of the same level of importance.

    Unless you like tolerating racism, that is. Then I could see how you might not see the dangers.

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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    In one case somebody was killed

    The other case somebody held a night stick in a meanacing manner

    I know which one I would want the government to spend resources on
    In the Oakland case the government took the accused to trial and a verdict was reached. Sentencing to follow.

    In the New Ku Klux Klan case, aka New Black Panther case, a verdict was reached, the racist Justice Department dismissed the case.

    The government should investigate why the Justice Department dismissed a case on racial grounds.

    There's no reason to investigate why a jury made what would seem to be a bad decision. Juries make bad decisions all the time.

    There should be an investitation into why the convicted cop from Oakland is now going to face double jeopardy.

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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what's the harm in investigating?
    Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.

    nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb;
    That's what's wrong with having a second trial for the same offense.

    It's unconstitutional.

    And, no, the act of shooting the prisoner was one act. It a violation of the Constitution to put someone on trial for murder, and then, failing to get the desired conviction, to put him on trial for not liking black people.

    That's not only unconstitutional, but morally reprehensible.
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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Your right, the right to vote is fundamental. As it was in 2006 in Pima Arizona, where the DOJ declined to bring any charges for voter intimidation when minutemen, one of whom carried a gun were intimidating Latino voters at a polling place while also filming them.
    Oh.

    So you're simply happy that if some apparent injustice happens it must be balanced with some injustice happening to someone completely unconnected to the original incident, so long as the races are different?

    You've no problem with injustice itself, so long as your party can get away with it, too?

    BTW, did the US DOJ have a conviction already in hand when it decided against pursuing the matter further? The only thing left for the New Black Panther case was sentencing recommendation, the guilty as charged default judgement had already been obtained.
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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Shouldn't the Justice Department have investigated and prosecuted OJ Simpson for civil rights violations of Ronald Simpson, a Jewish American, and thus a minority?

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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So the racist Justice Department is going to violate double jeopardy and give the cops a second trial, just like they did in the Rodney King case.

    Boy, no surprises there.
    The Obama Justice Department is above the Constitution and can do as it pleases. Who is going to stop them? They are in power. Doesn't that give you a warm and fuzzy? It's like living in South Africa under Mandela.

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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Sextuple post! A new record Scarecrow!

    Anyway, a man was handcuffed and lying face down and GOT SHOT BY POLICE. And conservatives are trying to change the subject. Standard tactic: Talk about absolutely anything except the subject. Try to get Obama involved.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    In one case somebody was killed

    The other case somebody held a night stick in a meanacing manner

    I know which one I would want the government to spend resources on
    Actually they seem to be talking about the topic.

    Said guy was found innocent by a jury of his peers.

    This justice department is deciding to investigate after a verdict was reached and seemingly want to subject this man to double jeapordy.

    As such the question is "Why"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Sextuple post! A new record Scarecrow!

    Anyway, a man was handcuffed and lying face down and GOT SHOT BY POLICE. And conservatives are trying to change the subject. Standard tactic: Talk about absolutely anything except the subject. Try to get Obama involved.

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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Actually they seem to be talking about the topic.

    Said guy was found innocent by a jury of his peers.

    This justice department is deciding to investigate after a verdict was reached and seemingly want to subject this man to double jeapordy.

    As such the question is "Why"
    Actually, he was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.
    "I believe in a Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."

    --Albert Einstein, 1929

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    Re: US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Sextuple post! A new record Scarecrow!

    Anyway, a man was handcuffed and lying face down and GOT SHOT BY POLICE. And conservatives are trying to change the subject. Standard tactic: Talk about absolutely anything except the subject. Try to get Obama involved.
    Considering the topic is about the Department of Justice (an executive branch department), Obama is involved.
    "I believe in a Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."

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