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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    This wouldn't be happening if shallow-water sources were made MORE accessible, not less.

    The logic of the left never ceases to disappoint me...
    Actually, we shouldn't be drilling in the gulf AT ALL. This has been coming a long time. All it would have taken was a good whack by a hurricane, and this could have happened anytime in the last 20 years. But thanks for your false dichotomy. Nice try.

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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozengale View Post
    Only if the people stay silent about it. We already know that Oil is unsustainable, but that doesn't mean that we have to make the transition to better energies a grueling endeavor.
    People are resistant to change. They will only change their way of life when it becomes too painful to maintain the status quo. Allowing consumers to pay the actual cost of oil gives them a strong incentive to change their behaviors.

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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    Let's not talk theories or trends, let's talk reality. How much economic impact on jobs will the oil spill have and what will it do for jobs and industries such as industrial fishing, tourism, etc. By dealing in half truths and generalities, your concern for workers job opportunities seems insincere at best. You are concerned about jobs, right?
    You can jack up taxes on the rest of the country to pay for more liberal welfare. Problem solved.
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, we shouldn't be drilling in the gulf AT ALL. This has been coming a long time. All it would have taken was a good whack by a hurricane, and this could have happened anytime in the last 20 years. But thanks for your false dichotomy. Nice try.
    Then you shouldn't be using any petroleum-based products. Get out of your car, get off the roads, stop using ink pens, stop using the electrical grid, etc...
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Then you shouldn't be using any petroleum-based products. Get out of your car, get off the roads, stop using ink pens, stop using the electrical grid, etc...
    What, no more using Vaseline?
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What, no more using Vaseline?
    Oh great, the mass chafing on marathons that will result...
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, we shouldn't be drilling in the gulf AT ALL. This has been coming a long time. All it would have taken was a good whack by a hurricane, and this could have happened anytime in the last 20 years. But thanks for your false dichotomy. Nice try.

    What? You must either be joking, or just not fully understand what drilling in the Gulf means for America. The jobs, the supply, what it means for this country and our economy period. Plus you are duped into somehow believing that if we were to stop drilling there that nobody would? That's just plain dumb.

    I suggest you do the slightest bit of research into just how many different countries are there, and how many accidents there have been since 1946 and you would see that not only are we not the only ones there, but that as a percentage, accidents are less than 1/1000th of 1% from that drilling. I assure you, you're not even that safe in your own life.

    'shouldn't be drilling in the Gulf'.... What a joke! Get a clue.


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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    From the Miami Herald



    I for one am thrilled about this. One thing Florida definitely does not need is a repeat of this oil spill. Of course, Florida already bans offshore drilling, but a constitutional amendment is probably the best way to preserve the lesson from this tragedy and protect Florida's beaches from a future of short sighted oil-drilling.

    Of course, this is being turned into a Republican talking point, to be used as a bludgeon against Crist in his upcoming Senate race against tea party hack Marco Rubio. What else is new. But I don't think it will work, the people of Florida know what is in their best interest and Crist really is looking out for the state here.
    Along with banning oil drilling off the coast of Florida, it should totally exempt, forever, Florida receiving a cut of oil and gas royalties from other parts of the GOM, as she does now.

    Although, I don't know what Florida's deal is, the Spanish and the Chinese are drilling in the North Cuba Basin as we speak. How far is that from the Keys?
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Although, I don't know what Florida's deal is, the Spanish and the Chinese are drilling in the North Cuba Basin as we speak. How far is that from the Keys?
    Well, that's just false, nobody is drilling off the coast of Cuba, unless they're doing it with top-secret communist invisible oil rigs.

    And even if they were drilling there--they aren't-- this is still a red herring. I know that Cuba is farther away (about 90 miles) from the Florida Coast than Deepwater Horizon was from the Lousiana coast (about 50 miles). Not to mention it is outside of Florida's jurisdiction. Floridians have to protect Florida as best as we can, our beaches are far more important than any piddling oil assets that might be off the coast. Believe me, if we had more to gain from drilling than we had to lose I'd be the first one out there yelling "drill, baby, drill." But we don't, drilling of Florida's coasts is a terrible, awful, rotten idea. And "they're doing it in Cuba" isn't a good reason, especially since they actually aren't.
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Well, that's just false, nobody is drilling off the coast of Cuba, unless they're doing it with top-secret communist invisible oil rigs.
    You might want to keep with current events a little better.

    Cuban Drilling Poses New Threat to Florida Beaches - WSJ.com

    Cox Reporter Rips Right-Wing Luminaries for 'Rumor' About Offshore Drilling Plans in Cuba, Burns Herself | NewsBusters.org

    [b]And even if they were drilling there--they aren't-- this is still a red herring. I know that Cuba is farther away (about 90 miles) from the Florida Coast than Deepwater Horizon was from the Lousiana coast (about 50 miles). Not to mention it is outside of Florida's jurisdiction. Floridians have to protect Florida as best as we can, our beaches are far more important than any piddling oil assets that might be off the coast. Believe me, if we had more to gain from drilling than we had to lose I'd be the first one out there yelling "drill, baby, drill." But we don't, drilling of Florida's coasts is a terrible, awful, rotten idea. And "they're doing it in Cuba" isn't a good reason, especially since they actually aren't.[/QUOTE]

    Cuba is 90 miles from Florida. The North Cuba Basin, isn't. How far is MC 252 from Pensacola?

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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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