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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    the less mony we spend to get it, the less we think and/or care about exploring other sources or conserving it.
    Only if the people stay silent about it. We already know that Oil is unsustainable, but that doesn't mean that we have to make the transition to better energies a grueling endeavor. It can go smoothly with as little pain as possible. But just because we need to become reliant on sustainable energy doesn't mean we have to demonize the energy we have now and make it so we lose more money in the process.

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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozengale View Post
    Only if the people stay silent about it. We already know that Oil is unsustainable, but that doesn't mean that we have to make the transition to better energies a grueling endeavor. It can go smoothly with as little pain as possible. But just because we need to become reliant on sustainable energy doesn't mean we have to demonize the energy we have now and make it so we lose more money in the process.
    Are you feeling a lot of pain due to lack of supply right now? I'm not, but I think a little pain will do us a lot of good, otherwise most will be oblivious to how we are hurting until the next jump in gas prices spurs everyone to cut back again.
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Are you feeling a lot of pain due to lack of supply right now? I'm not, but I think a little pain will do us a lot of good, otherwise most will be oblivious to how we are hurting until the next jump in gas prices spurs everyone to cut back again.
    I don't know where you live but gas prices have been on a steady uprise for a long time here. The point is we don't have to have another huge jump in prices, and we can still go into other energy resources. We don't have to force everyone to pay huge amounts of money for gas just so we can switch over to other energy sources.

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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozengale View Post
    I don't know where you live but gas prices have been on a steady uprise for a long time here. The point is we don't have to have another huge jump in prices, and we can still go into other energy resources. We don't have to force everyone to pay huge amounts of money for gas just so we can switch over to other energy sources.
    Gas prices are currently roughly what they were 5 years ago, and if you were to average out the fluctuations over the last 5 years we would be just that...average.. ohh the pain of that steady uprise... or are you considering a long time to be more like a 20 year time frame?

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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    There are only ~30 rigs affected by the moratorium. The rest are still in operation.
    I wasn't referring to the moratorium... I was referring to the fact that so many of the new contracts put out by the government in deep and ultra deep water are due to the work envirofreaks have done to prevent more contracts in the safer, but closer to shore, shallow water areas...
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm guessing you don't realize that a hefty percentage of our economy in Florida is reliant upon tourism. Deepwater Horizon is having a major impact on the panhandle already, and could affect the rest of Florida, as well, particularly the west coast. You want to drill? Do it in your own damn state, NOT MINE.
    If this had happened in shallow waters (the actual areas under state control rather than federal control) the leak would have been plugged long ago...
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    oooh boohooo poor victimized oil companies.

    anyhoo if they want to drill near the shore let them do it texas, ms, la, and al. they already look like thirdworld nations anyway.
    Then you stop driving your car and other things that require the use of the oil that you don't want to drill...

    As for the oil companies, oil exploration and exploitation is expensive business. Much of the easy to get desposits are controlled by state-owned oil companies in OPEC Member States as well as in Russia. In several Western countries, including the United States, envirofreaks have caused relatively easily accessible deposits to be off limits.

    If you are so concerned about Florida, how do you feel about the Chinese drilling less than 50 miles off your coastline?
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm guessing that you're not living in an area that's being poisoned by offshore drilling, so it's easy for you to propose doing it. But for us, offshore drilling is having a drastic impact on our entire state. We're watching the oil from deepwater slowly creep closer to the places that we love, and watching people's livelihoods being destroyed moment by moment, not to mention the destruction of the beautiful place and the local wildlife. It is a daily horror show being played out right in front of us..
    This wouldn't be happening if shallow-water sources were made MORE accessible, not less.

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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    You mean the one that occurred in Mexican waters that was an exploratory well???
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ah...the joy of politics...from 2006 to 2009 democrats tried to destroy Crist, going so far as to out him as being a closeted homosexual. Liberal filmmakers included him in a documentary. Then when he loses and decided to run as an independent the dems embrace him as the only real hope of defeating the republican running...because no democrat they can put forward is worth a dman...and now he is the darling.

    Crist is using the drilling issue (umm...isnt offshore drilling already capped and banned in Florida?) as a ploy to turn people out to vote. Its political posturing...nothing more.
    The thing is...Crist is actually pretty well-liked in Florida. We like moderate politicians here: blue dog democrats and moderate republicans. Crist is just another version of another well-liked governor, Lawton Chiles. The good thing about putting this issue on the ballot is that it will both draw out Crist voters and make the differences between Crist, and corporate shill Marco Rubio, abundantly clear.

    Beyond that, I know the man is gay. Most of us in Florida just don't care. I think he only got married because he thought he had a shot at the VP slot on the McCain ticket.
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