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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Like thinking that BP isn't responsible for the **** they unleashed upon the people who rely on the Gulf for their livings? Because that's pretty freakin' crazy.

    No one is saying that BP isn't a responsible party for this disaster. It is only the repeated use of them as a bludgeoning tool to deflect the administrations piss poor track record in this that grows tiresome.

    Look, BP did intentionally unleash this disaster, any more than Obama blew it himself, so that is over the top. Second, Obama's refusal to act swiftly, and bring to bear any and all resources to battle this spill, then at the same time callously use it as a political tool to try and ram cap and trade through, is despicable. And in some cases maybe even criminal. Too bad there won't be any serious investigation of this until he is long disgraced out of office.


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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    thankfully, your opinion on this subject doesn't hold any water (pardon my pun).
    Ahh so opinions from me are worthless but opinions from the all knowing Catz are life altering and the best things ever? I'm sorry I have an opinion on a debate forum. From now on I will agree with whatever you say no matter what.

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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Regadless of this, a few wells off the local beaches here that would have a negligible influence on gas prices would potentially be more catastrophic to my well being (and the local economy) than a few cents (or even a dollar or two for that matter) change in fuel prices.
    Why? Why would it alter the local economy? Miles and miles of the coast of Florida suddenly make it an eyesore or something and destroy tourism?

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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Look, BP did intentionally unleash this disaster, any more than Obama blew it himself, so that is over the top.
    It was BP's gross negligence in building a deepwater rig without any failsafe measures that led to the spill, so yes, actually, they did intentionally unleash this disaster more so than Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I suggest you do the slightest bit of research into just how many different countries are there, and how many accidents there have been since 1946 and you would see that not only are we not the only ones there, but that as a percentage, accidents are less than 1/1000th of 1% from that drilling.
    Why don't you take that 1/1000th of a percent and go play Russian Roulette with you own state. We down here in Florida are conservative types, we like to play it safe.

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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It was BP's gross negligence in building a deepwater rig without any failsafe measures that led to the spill, so yes, actually, they did intentionally unleash this disaster more so than Obama.

    *Sigh* I am sure that this has been covered already, which makes your statement above all the more disingenuous.


    Why don't you take that 1/1000th of a percent and go play Russian Roulette with you own state. We down here in Florida are conservative types, we like to play it safe.

    I almost let out a cackle on that one...Conservative types eh? Like Crist? Well, don't let facts get in your way while in full demonizing mode.


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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    *Sigh* I am sure that this has been covered already, which makes your statement above all the more disingenuous.
    Nonsense. The only thing disingeuous is your claim that BP didn't intend the spill any more than Obama. That's absurd. BP might not have literally plotted to spill all that oil, but their grossly negligent actions are tantamount to intent. Obama has absolutely nothing to do with the causation of the spill whatsoever. To any reasonable person it is clear who is closer to intending the spill. Now if you're a corporate shill I guess it's a little fuzzier...


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
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    I almost let out a cackle on that one...Conservative types eh? Like Crist? Well, don't let facts get in your way while in full demonizing mode.
    Apparently knowing nothing about Florida politics isn't stopping you from forming opinions about it huh? Yes, Crist is a very conservative politician, and was formerly a Republican before Rubio edged him out for the Senate nomination, so now he is running as an Independent, but still very conservative. And really, even a Florida Democrat is more conservative than a Massachucetts Republican. Just a friendly tip: Do a little research before you start spouting off next time.

    But that's really neither here nor there, because I use the term "conservative" more generally, as in, "risk averse." Like I said, feel free to play Russian Roulette with the economy of your own state, but that 1/1000 of a percent is more of a risk than most Floridians would like to take with our beaches.
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Nonsense. The only thing disingeuous is your claim that BP didn't intend the spill any more than Obama. That's absurd. BP might not have literally plotted to spill all that oil, but their grossly negligent actions are tantamount to intent.

    And how about the governments negligence in this? Matters not? MMS ring a bell?

    I'm not saying that BP is free of any blame in the spill, however if you really want to start with the finger pointing before the spill is stopped, and cleaned up then the administrations actions are so incompetent as to be criminal.

    Libtards are making this political in order to promote their far left agenda, and they are doing it by purposely killing the eco system in the gulf in by far one of the most cynical acts of shameless politics I have ever seen in my lifetime.


    Obama has absolutely nothing to do with the causation of the spill whatsoever.
    Causation? well, you're wrong there, as I have already eluded to concerning the MMS, and waivers Obama granted to BP before the spill happened.

    Now, during the early stages, and up to now the Obama administration has stood firmly in the way up any effort to mitigate the spill, aid in stopping it, or accepting outside help to control it.

    He is a joke, and whether it is incompetence, or willful destruction of our nations gulf coast, it IMHO is criminal.

    Apparently knowing nothing about Florida politics isn't stopping you from forming opinions about it huh? Yes, Crist is a very conservative politician, and was formerly a Republican before Rubio edged him out for the Senate nomination, so now he is running as an Independent, but still very conservative. And really, even a Florida Democrat is more conservative than a Massachucetts Republican. Just a friendly tip: Do a little research before you start spouting off next time.


    yep, I can tell.


    But that's really neither here nor there, because I use the term "conservative" more generally, as in, "risk averse." Like I said, feel free to play Russian Roulette with the economy of your own state, but that 1/1000 of a percent is more of a risk than most Floridians would like to take with our beaches.
    So it's true, liberals like yourself were just waiting for any little thing you could to exploit and kill energy in this country, and therefore the economy. Allensky would be proud.

    Run along now son, you've been outed.


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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    hah! /\ what a load from the guy from SC. a state who's GPD is ranked in the 70s... tied with the Philipines
    South Carolina is not in a position to be giving business advice to Florida (4th largest economy of the states in the union ftw)

    Comparison between U.S. states and countries nominal GDP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Crist wants drilling ban on the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    yay Crist! He gets my vote to become FL Senator.
    It's interesting how the actual Floridians on this thread seem to approve of this move by Crist, but the people who have no idea of what matters to us in Florida (i.e., we know what side our bread is buttered on...tourism is what makes our economy tick) are up in arms.

    I'll tell ya what...you outsiders worry about your states, and let us worry about ours.

    States rights, ftw.

    yeah! grrr.. those foreigners need take care of their own states first.

    anyhooo it's gonna be an exciting race between Crist and Rubio. The DNC shouldn't bother wasting their money running the dem candidate for senator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Florida already bans offshore drilling
    The oil spill occurred while Florida had offshore drilling banned. How will banning it harder (Constitutionally rather than by statute) prevent similar future failures?
    Last edited by Psudo; 07-14-10 at 05:49 AM.

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