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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Soon as the dems start levying taxes on the oil companies, you'll get your $5 gas.
    not saying it couldnt happen, but it would be politcal suicide at this time, being so close to an election cycle..
    so as much as some would like to tax the business of oil, i cant see it before november and certainly not after the "balance of power" is hopefully restored at that time.

    the bigger question is what is going to happen after november.. alot of big talk(as usual), but are we looking at more of same ol' political "glad handing" to portray legitimate legislation to the unwitting masses?
    if anything good can be said of this political environment, it is safe to say that more people than ever are looking at their leaders(local/state/federal) with more scrutiny and IMO, the "public servants" are realizing it.
    i feel a pretty good size political flush coming in the next two elections.. i just hope its for the better..

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think the moratorium is a great idea, and the judge sucks.
    Even if it is illegal?
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The entire industry is dirty, unsustainable, and has caused irreparable damage to my state. So, the fact that some oil rig workers are kicking their heels because we've stopped drilling isn't causing me not to sleep at night. You know what? I'm not particularly sorry they're unemployed. I wish Louisiana had NEVER allowed drilling along its coast. I bet a lot of local fishermen feel the same damn way.
    This drilling occurred in federal waters, not in Louisiana waters...
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    And we need to find alternatives...my vote would go for taxing the **** out of petroleum drilling and manufacturing in order to fund the development of a sustainable way of life that will not require us to poison our land and water.
    All the while sending the economy into a tailspin that would make the Clinton and Bush43 recessions look MILD by comparison...
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, it IS a winning solution for our nation's longterm future IF that higher price forces consumers to make different fuel consumption choices.
    What alternate fuel choice does the average American who owns a gasoline-fuel car have?
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Does Obama even understand, or respect, the law?
    We all know the answer to that.
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think the moratorium is a great idea, and the judge sucks.
    I'll bet Obama feels the same way.
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm sure much more than we non lawyers do.
    He understands, but disrespects the law. So his socialism is purposeful.
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    What alternate fuel choice does the average American who owns a gasoline-fuel car have?
    not much... at first...
    there is most certainly no perfect answer, but we as americans cant just keep funding the regimes that promote the destruction of our way of life.
    IMO, if it werent for the sheer mega-wealth being fed to saudi arabia(and other similar religiously influenced nations with oil for sale) they would gladly finance any anti-western movement.
    we need to wean ourselves from their oily teats and soon, so they(all other civilized countries) will again look up to the US as a leader of many facets, including non-fossil fuel sources of energy.(or at least fear our wrath)

    it was just a few decades ago when we switched to unleaded gas and required emission controls.. i remember my dad having a fit, talking about the price of auto's going through the roof and how it will crush the average man to own a car. we(joe public) stepped up and overcame, as we will do again.
    it seems to always take having an obstacle to birth creativity.. and its been a while.
    at the moment, i cant think of a single industry outside of animal and crop farming technologies that we are a leader in.(im sure there is another, but it currently escapes me)

    IMO, much of gen X hit the street thinking it was all for free and took great advantage of the creamy crop before them. i liken it to a person who restores a classic car vs the person who up and buys one already done.. or perhaps a comparison from a person who got a job and paid for their first car vs. the kid who's parent(s) simply bought them their first car. the real appreciation just isnt there.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by WhyteRash View Post
    not much... at first...
    there is most certainly no perfect answer, but we as americans cant just keep funding the regimes that promote the destruction of our way of life.
    IMO, if it werent for the sheer mega-wealth being fed to saudi arabia(and other similar religiously influenced nations with oil for sale) they would gladly finance any anti-western movement.
    we need to wean ourselves from their oily teats and soon, so they(all other civilized countries) will again look up to the US as a leader of many facets, including non-fossil fuel sources of energy.(or at least fear our wrath)
    I actually agree with you on most of this. I am not comfortable at the power that KSA, Venezuela, Russia and others have because they sit on pools of oil. That is why in the SHORT term we need to exploit the resources available in the free world rather than continue sending our money to dictators who would as soon undermine our way of life as support it.

    it was just a few decades ago when we switched to unleaded gas and required emission controls.. i remember my dad having a fit, talking about the price of auto's going through the roof and how it will crush the average man to own a car. we(joe public) stepped up and overcame, as we will do again.
    Not the same thing as cars can run on unleaded fuel. However, existing automobiles are NOT able to run on the alternative fuels being proposed currently.

    it seems to always take having an obstacle to birth creativity.. and its been a while.
    at the moment, i cant think of a single industry outside of animal and crop farming technologies that we are a leader in.(im sure there is another, but it currently escapes me)
    The problem is that an instant switch would have costs associated with it that most people could not afford. You can't simply tell everyone that they have to get a hybrid car TODAY. It is too expensive for most Americans. You can't insist that everyone buy solar panals for their homes. They are too expensive for the average person. So, sad to say, we need to continue drilling for the foreseeable future. In doing so, we need to do it on our own soil in as safe conditions as possible. Drilling closer to shore is MUCH safer and easier than drilling further out...
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