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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Everyone makes money from or using oil products Catz. If you ride the bus or pedal a bicycle you are using oil products. Even as you rip on oil over the internet you are doing so on a computer made from petroleum byproducts. Everyone makes money using petroleum or it's byproducts.
    And we need to find alternatives...my vote would go for taxing the **** out of petroleum drilling and manufacturing in order to fund the development of a sustainable way of life that will not require us to poison our land and water.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Of course the risk woud still be there. But after a ful review and analysis of what caused the blow out better practices and policies could be enacted by both the government and industry to reduce the chances of it occuring again. Continueing without such a review will mean the chances are most likely going to be higher of a blowout rather then lower
    And has been ordered by the court, the government failed to make any case as to why it would be necessary to shut down other rigs that have already been reinspected to come up with new safety procedures.

    You can have the review, that is fine with me, but shutting down exploratory wells in the interium that have nothing to do with the BP spill is not needed, nor is it a wise move.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Proof?
    From your own Palm Beach Post:

    The folks in Jay are sitting on top of one of the state's most oil-rich areas, a place where not that long ago tens of millions of barrels a year flowed out of the ground and where more than a dozen active wells are still producing within the town's 1.5 square miles.

    "It was like Christmas time once a month," Linda Carden, Jay's city clerk for 34 years, said of the late '70s boom years when local landowners received as much as $100,000 a month in royalties from the wells on their land.

    "There was so much money being made that it was kind of a joke that people that owned cemetery plots were getting paid" lucrative royalties for their 5-by-7 foot grave sites, retired oil worker Fred Sasser recalled.

    Don't really care if they have sympathy for us. You made a plaintive bleat here that we consider their suffering. Don't think I haven't. I've also considered the impact of their industry on me and mine. That diminished my sympathy for them.
    Well, perhaps then you care to uphold the law? Two courts have now struck down the moratorium, and yet the Obama Administration does not seem to care.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The entire industry is dirty, unsustainable, and has caused irreparable damage to my state. So, the fact that some oil rig workers are kicking their heels because we've stopped drilling isn't causing me not to sleep at night. You know what? I'm not particularly sorry they're unemployed. I wish Louisiana had NEVER allowed drilling along its coast. I bet a lot of local fishermen feel the same damn way.
    Good. I hope you carry on with the same bravado and posturing next time you are standing at the gas pump. Remember, now, it was that damned, dirty Louisianna oil rig worker that just made you run out that tank of gas and then turn around and pay the company that employed him for another one.

    Do you get light headed from the lack of oxygen way up there on your pedastal?

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    And we need to find alternatives...my vote would go for taxing the **** out of petroleum drilling and manufacturing in order to fund the development of a sustainable way of life that will not require us to poison our land and water.
    What level are you wanting to tax this at? If we levied all these new taxes on oil and drove the price up, the immediate impact on our economy would be devastating.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    What level are you wanting to tax this at? If we levied all these new taxes on oil and drove the price up, the immediate impact on our economy would be devastating.
    Fine. I'll be content with cutting the subsidies to an industry making record profits annually.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    It is nice to see someone stick it to the Obama administration............
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It is nice to see someone stick it to the Obama administration............
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Fine. I'll be content with cutting the subsidies to an industry making record profits annually.
    I am fine with that, provided we also eliminate subsidies for wind, solar etc, and truly let the free market win.

    You also need to focus in some specific subsidies. In many scenarios oil companies are given subsidies and tax breaks for their research and work into alternative fuel sources. That might be something we might not want to do away with persay if rapid alternative energy development is the end goal.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Fine. I'll be content with cutting the subsidies to an industry making record profits annually.
    The profit margin is 8 to 10%. All businesses are allowed to make profits. That's capitalism. Profits allow more investiment into larger facilities and creating more jobs. Taxing the oil companies just means that the oil companies will pass these taxes onto the consumer in higher gas prices. That's not a winning solution to the consumer.

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