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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    How did an oil rig service worker that works for a company independent of BP "**** up our lives along with their own"? How did rig workers on say a Chevron rig that is now shut down "**** up our lives along with their own"?

    You are ignoring reality if you think those out of work by this moratorium are only connected to the BP rig.
    Perhaps a moratorium would be a good idea for all involved to review policies and procedures as a mean to prevent this sort of thing from occuring again would be a good idea.

    6 months of waiting vs another potential blowout
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The entire industry is dirty, unsustainable, and has caused irreparable damage to my state. So, the fact that some oil rig workers are kicking their heels because we've stopped drilling isn't causing me not to sleep at night. You know what? I'm not particularly sorry they're unemployed. I wish Louisiana had NEVER allowed drilling along its coast. I bet a lot of local fishermen feel the same damn way.
    What state is that? I live in Louisiana, I would say "my state" has taken a large hit as well. That "dirty" industry you cite most likely has pumped billions into your states economy and created jobs for thousands.

    I fail to see how you can make the argument that causing higher unemployment levels is somehow a good thing.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Perhaps a moratorium would be a good idea for all involved to review policies and procedures as a mean to prevent this sort of thing from occuring again would be a good idea.
    As two courts have ruled now, the government has failed to show a legal argument for this. Furthermore, the DOI has already reinspected every one of the platforms effected by the moratorium, and cleared them all in terms of safety already. What else do you want? For them to do it again?

    6 months of waiting vs another potential blowout
    The potential for another blowout does not go away after 6 months. These type disasters, while certainly tragic, are not the norm, and typically blowouts do not result in this scenario.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    What state is that? I live in Louisiana, I would say "my state" has taken a large hit as well. That "dirty" industry you cite most likely has pumped billions into your states economy and created jobs for thousands.

    I fail to see how you can make the argument that causing higher unemployment levels is somehow a good thing.
    That dirty industry you mention hasn't pumped billions into my state's economy. I live in Florida. But, you are going to cost us billions.

    Let me make a suggestion to your oil workers...Jobs shift, and so does the economy. Maybe they should consider a new line of work. I have zero sympathy for the oil industry and its workers in Louisiana. ZERO.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    As two courts have ruled now, the government has failed to show a legal argument for this. Furthermore, the DOI has already reinspected every one of the platforms effected by the moratorium, and cleared them all in terms of safety already. What else do you want? For them to do it again?



    The potential for another blowout does not go away after 6 months. These type disasters, while certainly tragic, are not the norm, and typically blowouts do not result in this scenario.
    i can't seem to find any evidence that every rig has been reinspected.

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    As two courts have ruled now, the government has failed to show a legal argument for this. Furthermore, the DOI has already reinspected every one of the platforms effected by the moratorium, and cleared them all in terms of safety already. What else do you want? For them to do it again?



    The potential for another blowout does not go away after 6 months. These type disasters, while certainly tragic, are not the norm, and typically blowouts do not result in this scenario.
    Of course the risk woud still be there. But after a ful review and analysis of what caused the blow out better practices and policies could be enacted by both the government and industry to reduce the chances of it occuring again. Continueing without such a review will mean the chances are most likely going to be higher of a blowout rather then lower
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That dirty industry you mention hasn't pumped billions into my state's economy. I live in Florida. But, you are going to cost us billions.

    Let me make a suggestion to your oil workers...Jobs shift, and so does the economy. Maybe they should consider a new line of work. I have zero sympathy for the oil industry and its workers in Louisiana. ZERO.
    Everyone makes money from or using oil products Catz. If you ride the bus or pedal a bicycle you are using oil products. Even as you rip on oil over the internet you are doing so on a computer made from petroleum byproducts. Everyone makes money using petroleum or it's byproducts.
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That dirty industry you mention hasn't pumped billions into my state's economy. I live in Florida. But, you are going to cost us billions.
    Who exactly is "you"? Additionally, you seem to ignore the onshore drilling in Florida that has taken place for more than 70 years, and pumped billions into "your state's" economy.

    Let me make a suggestion to your oil workers...Jobs shift, and so does the economy. Maybe they should consider a new line of work. I have zero sympathy for the oil industry and its workers in Louisiana. ZERO.
    Jobs do shift, and so do economies. Am I to believe that you now thing oil has no place in the economy? Perhaps those oil workers who were in no way involved in the BP spill have no sympathy for "your state's problems."

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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i can't seem to find any evidence that every rig has been reinspected.
    Department of the Interior Press Release on the issue.

    If you scroll down with in it, you will see this:
    -Ordered immediate inspections of all deepwater operations in the Gulf of Mexico. The inspections of deepwater drilling rigs found Incidents of Non-Compliance (INC) on two rigs. Those violations were corrected and no other violations were found. To view the inspection report, click here. Inspections of deepwater production platforms is ongoing.
    There will be a link to view the inspection report by clicking on that.
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    Re: Obama loses drilling moratorium appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    Who exactly is "you"? Additionally, you seem to ignore the onshore drilling in Florida that has taken place for more than 70 years, and pumped billions into "your state's" economy.
    Proof?


    Jobs do shift, and so do economies. Am I to believe that you now thing oil has no place in the economy? Perhaps those oil workers who were in no way involved in the BP spill have no sympathy for "your state's problems."
    Don't really care if they have sympathy for us. You made a plaintive bleat here that we consider their suffering. Don't think I haven't. I've also considered the impact of their industry on me and mine. That diminished my sympathy for them.

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