digsbe said:
I think what people are saying in regards to the polygamy thing is that the arguments that justify homosexual marriage would also justify polygamy. I agree that it bringing polygamy into things is a red herring and serves no purpose in regards to the gay marriage debate.
Yes, that is their argument, and no, it is not accurate. Polygamy and homosexuality are very different things. One is what a person is, one is what a person does to start with.
Absolute dissemblence; total deception and a fraud of the first order.
Homosexuals are only an 'is' when the issue is their abnormal sexual DESIRE... Who gives a red rats @$$ about their abnormal sexual desire? No one here is discussing their abnormal sexual desire... NOT ONE PERSON IN THIS DISCUSSION IS CONCERNED WITH, OR HAS CALLED FOR ANY LEGISLATION WHICH PRECLUDES THE LOWLY HOMOSEXUAL FROM DESIRING INDIVIDUALS OF THEIR OWN GENDER FOR SEXUAL GRATIFICATION...
This debate is concerned PURELY with the ACTIONS of the homosexual which hopes to play house and present themselves as something akin to normal... To demonstrate that being a homosexual is just as normal as to not be a pathetic sexual deviant that is incapable of rejecting their twisted, deviant sexual cravings.
Actions... Of course, at the end of the day, who one IS, is demonstrated by one's actions, isn't it? So in that one immutable principle alone, the member's argument is refuted...
There is not ONE STATE within the fifty United States that precludes homosexuals, declared or otherwise from marriage... NOT ONE~
Meaning that ANY homosexual, in ANY AMERICAN STATE... can make application for and expect to be summarily accepted by ANY American state authority which is concerned with the issuing of such licenses... as long as that homosexual's application fits the reasonable and necessary standard of marriage; that being that only two individuals, each representing the distinct genders be listed in the application.
Thus there is no discrimination of the Homosexual with regard to marriage... PERIOD! Yet the advocates of the normalization of abnormality would have you believe otherwise...
Deceit and Fraud... It's who and what the Progressives are... "One is the sum of one's actions..." What's that tell us?
What the homosexuls want to do, is to LOWER THE STANDARD TO PROVIDE FOR THE STRIPPING OF THE ELEMENT OF THE MARRIAGE STANDARD WHICH REQUIRES INDIVIDUALS MAKING APPLICATION FOR SUCH, TO BE OF TWO DISTINCT GENDERS... This more often than not based upon the claim that because normal individuals who enter into marriage enjoy numerous financial advantages, that this provides for the unfair treatment of the lowly homosexual... despite the absolute fact that ANY two homosexuals can file to incorporate their union with their respective state and receive almost identical financial advantages; from being recognized as one legal entity for the purposes of taxation, to insurable interests, to the right of inheritence, to the the legal right to visit their legally binding partners in hospital... and what's MORE... they could EASILY lobby the federal legislature to change the tax code to provide more equal treatment relative to the normal people who join in marriage.
BUT NOoooooeeuu... They DEMAND that the culture lower the standard of marriage to provide for their sliverous special interests; as if the REST of the nation has NO RIGHT to establish cultural mores.
Let me ask ya this friends... IF the homosexual has a right to establish cultural standards, how is it POSSIBLE that the same right doesn't exist for the rest of the citizenry? Clearly it would, right? At least where the principle that 'all men are created equal...' is recognized and respected. Which is, in truth that which this entire issue revolves around...
We're debating Progressives... They're secularists... anti-theists... anti-Americans... who are defined by nothing at all beyond the chronic advancement of deceit and fraud and the raw abuse of whatever power they may come by.
With examples of such being all around us... everyday.
These people do NOT believe in the natural rights of man... they believe rights are endowed, not by nature's God, but by Government power. And at the end of the day, the only thing that separates the men from the shims, is the will of men to reject their deviant notions... standing together in sound principle, ready to go to whatever length THEY DEMAND WE GO... to sustain sound, sustainable cultural principle; such as required as the sustaining element of our own, certain, self-evident, unalienable human rights.
It's evil... that's all. It only wins when we succumb to it's lies. And the choice as to whther or not good or evil prevails is our own. Period and without exception.
Now where the issue is the marriage standard and the desire by one subversive element of the culture to lower that standard, in this case the element which provides that both distinct genders be represented, it is quite relevant to note that where this spurious reasoning is accepted, that the foolish judgment which accepts that premise, BY DEFAULT establishes that the OTHER ELEMENT OF THE STANDARD IS ALSO UNFAIR... and as a result must be lowered to accomodate those which IT PRECLUDED from participation.
Thus this member's specious claims are refuted as well as those of like mind who have come to advocate for the same unsustainable twaddle.