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Pentagon sends out "don't ask, don't tell" survey

Redress said:
In 6 years of service(pre-DADT), I knew of 2 gay people, neither advertised it, but neither hid it. It was well known they where gay. Hell, our skipper made a joke about one of them and being gay.
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Your skipper should have been charged with violating and article on the UCMJ....You can't pick and choose which articles you want to obey........
 
Navy Pride said:
The rest of society does not have to sleep, shower and dress with gay sailors......huge difference............
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You mean like firemen? Oh wait, bad example.

You mean like college kids? Darn, another bad example.

I can think of numerous cases where they do. actually Navy.
 
Navy Pride said:
We will let the military people decide...If they dump DADT I will live with it and not complain............Can you say the sake if they uphold DADT? I think not..............
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No, actually we will not. The government will make the decision. If you read what the survey asks, it is mostly about potential problems.
 
Navy Pride said:
Your skipper should have been charged with violating and article on the UCMJ....You can't pick and choose which articles you want to obey........
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Has nothing to do with what I said, nor what you said. Gays have served for quite some time in the Navy. You may not like it, but it is true.
 
Redress said:
You mean like firemen? Oh wait, bad example.

You mean like college kids? Darn, another bad example.

I can think of numerous cases where they do. actually Navy.
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They volunteer to do it...Fine....they are not forced to........Oh and fireman don't go to sea for 90 days at a time......try again........
 
SE102 said:
I thot the nayvee was full of gayz?
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This is all the Village People's fault.

Stupid double posting.

Navy Pride said:
They volunteer to do it...Fine....they are not forced to........Oh and fireman don't go to sea for 90 days at a time......try again........
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Oh I forgot about how we force people into the military.
 
Redress said:
No, actually we will not. The government will make the decision. If you read what the survey asks, it is mostly about potential problems.
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I am sure the final decision will be made by the results of the survey as much as you left wingers hate things decided by a vote of the people b ecause you lose every time.............
 
Redress said:
Has nothing to do with what I said, nor what you said. Gays have served for quite some time in the Navy. You may not like it, but it is true.
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I know they have....I helped kick several out who made unwanted sexual advances against their shipmates..............your point is?
 
Navy Pride said:
I am sure the final decision will be made by the results of the survey as much as you left wingers hate things decided by a vote of the people b ecause you lose every time.............
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What? Just like when Obama beat McCain?
 
Deuce said:
This is all the Village People's fault.




Oh I forgot about how we force people into the military.
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Stupid double posting. we have and all volunteer force in case you haven't heard............
 
Navy Pride said:
Youy want me to compare how many Presidents have been Republican and Democrat since 1952?
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left wingers hate things decided by a vote of the people b ecause you lose every time.............
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Regardless, your own words underlined are untrue :)
 
Navy Pride said:
Stupid double posting. we have and all volunteer force in case you haven't heard............
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Y...yes. I know. That was sarcasm.
You talked about how firefighters aren't forced into their situation. Neither are military personnel.

You say you helped get people kicked out. Why? Don't you think gay people deserve the honor of defending their country?
 
Navy Pride said:
They volunteer to do it...Fine....they are not forced to........Oh and fireman don't go to sea for 90 days at a time......try again........
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Just like military people volunteer to serve. Your point is?
 
Navy Pride said:
I am sure the final decision will be made by the results of the survey as much as you left wingers hate things decided by a vote of the people b ecause you lose every time.............
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There is zero evidence to back this point of view. You are welcome to believe whatever nutty thing you want though. The military has never determined policy based on a survey, and I do not see that changing.
 
Navy Pride said:
In 21 years service I have never seen a gay person serve openly....Every gay person I ever knew wis discharged with and undesireable discharge....You served with females...There may be lesbians serving openly, I don't know about that.....If you knew of a gay person serving openly or you had relations with a lesbian and did not report it you were in direct violation of the UCMJ.....
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Navy Pride said:
I know they have....I helped kick several out who made unwanted sexual advances against their shipmates..............your point is?
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I think my point is that when you cannot get your story strait, your anecdotes are not worth much.
 
Navy Pride said:
I am glad to see the DOD put out these surveys on how it effects the men serving.............If the surveys come back backing the repeal of DADT I will not complain about it again....I will say I told you so when the trouble starts...........I hope they break it down by services............
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my money would be on it being more accepting in the Navy than the other branches my old friend. :2razz:
 
Navy Pride said:
I am sure the final decision will be made by the results of the survey as much as you left wingers hate things decided by a vote of the people b ecause you lose every time.............
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I got a question for you Navy...

What are you gonna say if it comes back that the Majority of the military wouldn't mind DADT being overturned?
 
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