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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    She said voters should decide the fate of civil unions, not politicians.

    "The subject of this legislation has touched the hearts and minds of our citizens as no other social issue of our day," Lingle said. "It would be a mistake to allow a decision of this magnitude to be made by one individual or a small group of elected officials."


    I agree however this was a civil unions bill not a marriage bill so based on that limited amount of knowledge I have on their proposal I would have to say I'm against her decision.
    There are many states who were originally for Civil Unions who have changed their mind because of the left and a few militant gays...I myself was originally for Civil Unions but I to am changing my mind....
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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You do realize that civil unions domestic partnerships are nothing more than PC terms for marriage? They are terms used by politicians to weasel in gay marriage while pretending to cater to the anti-gay marriage side. If I call a pile of cow dung a T-Bone steak would you want to eat it? Hell no you would not want to eat because changing the name of something does not make it different. Calling marriage a civil union or domestic partnership does not change the fact it is still a union between two people with certain tax benefits,property rights,hospital visitations,medical decisions, and other stuff without having to have legal forms such as wills,power of attorneys and etc. to designate those things.
    Which all brings up the obvious question of:

    Yeah? So what? I thought the big worry that "lettin' them gays get married" was such a danger to us straight peoples marriages? So, I guess it actually IS about being able to continue to discriminate against them and treat them like second class citizens, eh? The bigotry comes shining though.

    (As if it wasn't quite clear before, but it's nice to have it in the open.)

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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There are many states who were originally for Civil Unions who have changed their mind because of the left and a few militant gays...I myself was originally for Civil Unions but I to am changing my mind....
    What about militant christians?
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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    FOXNews.com - Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill





    Hawaii's governor vetoed a bill that would have given homosexual couples civil unions identical to marriage. She did the right thing by vetoing this bill, and it should be up to the people of Hawaii to define marriage.
    This is a victory for gay rights as the law would have codified gays as second class citizens.

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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    This is a victory for gay rights as the law would have codified gays as second class citizens.
    No, it would have made gay unions on an equal benefit level with marriage without calling it marriage. This is a victory for citizens who would be allowed to vote and define what marriage is in their state.
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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    FOXNews.com - Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill





    Hawaii's governor vetoed a bill that would have given homosexual couples civil unions identical to marriage. She did the right thing by vetoing this bill, and it should be up to the people of Hawaii to define marriage.

    So adult tax paying citizens are different if they are gay under the law, wonderful

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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    If you will but note I did write 'My personal opinion'.
    Do tell how you manage to misinterpret the meaning of those three words?
    I misinterpreted nothing, you said that you believed that gays contaminate society. I asked how since the divorce rate is 50% for heterosexuals.

    Or is your "opinion" strictly ignorant?

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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No, it would have made gay unions on an equal benefit level with marriage without calling it marriage. This is a victory for citizens who would be allowed to vote and define what marriage is in their state.
    So you believe gays as second class citizens then.

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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So you believe gays as second class citizens then.
    No, I believe homosexual unions are not marriage.
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    Re: Hawaii Gov. Vetoes Same-Sex Civil Unions Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No, I believe homosexual unions are not marriage.
    And they weren't being called marriage, so what's your problem? Do you believe their unions to be second class?

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