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    AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    BOB CHRISTIE (AP) - Associated Press Writer PHOENIX The U.S. Justice Department is filing a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Arizona's tough new law targeting illegal immigrants.

    The planned lawsuit was confirmed to The Associated Press by a Justice Department official with knowledge of the plans. The official didn't want to be identified before a public announcement planned for later Tuesday.

    The lawsuit will argue that Arizona's new measure requiring state and local police to question and possibly arrest illegal immigrants during the enforcement of other laws, like traffic stops, usurps federal authority.

    Tuesday's action has been expected for weeks. President Barack Obama has called the state law misguided. Supporters say it is a reasonable reaction to federal inaction on immigration.
    AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Well, now we know the case will be the Feds claiming Usurption.. is that a word?? of Federal Authority. Not smart at all to make that the crux of the debate. IF they lose this, and I'm betting they will, it will open the door for States to challenge the Federal Government in all manner of "failing to" issues.
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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    That whole states rights thing is such an inconvenience for Obama's new voting base.

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    That whole states rights thing is such an inconvenience for Obama's new voting base.
    There ought to be a law that when a law is not enforced it is taken of the books.

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Holy Mary, Arizona dealing with the problem shouldn't require doing anything more than the feds should be doing in the first place.

    We're not talking about rocket science here. Either you're here legally, or you are not. If you are not, and you get rolled up... your enchilada ass should get booted back where you came from.

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    There ought to be a law that when a law is not enforced it is taken of the books.
    So you're saying we should get rid of The Constitution?
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    It shows you part of the problem with the Executive Branch and the amount of power it has in this country now that they can ignore a supposedly "equal" branch of governments passed laws and simply choose not to enforce them.

    Its also ridiculous on the surface as its suggesting that somehow local law enforcement can't do anything with regards to legal status. Will this standard be applied to other federal laws as well?

    I'm hoping Arizona wins this.

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Stupidity abounds when it comes to this issue. Is it seriously that hard for these people to get the idea around their head that laws are meant to be enforced, and if the federal government fails to uphold such a law then it falls to the state to do so?

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    The federal government is suing a state, because the state is having to deal with the fallout of the federal government's refusal/inability to enforce one of its own laws? Makes perfect sense.
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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    It shows you part of the problem with the Executive Branch and the amount of power it has in this country now that they can ignore a supposedly "equal" branch of governments passed laws and simply choose not to enforce them.

    Its also ridiculous on the surface as its suggesting that somehow local law enforcement can't do anything with regards to legal status. Will this standard be applied to other federal laws as well?

    I'm hoping Arizona wins this.

    Well, if the Feds win this, wouldn't that negate any "crime" that is both a crime under state and Federal law? I'm just asking.

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    BOB CHRISTIE (AP) - Associated Press Writer PHOENIX The U.S. Justice Department is filing a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Arizona's tough new law targeting illegal immigrants.

    AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Well, now we know the case will be the Feds claiming Usurption.. is that a word?? of Federal Authority. Not smart at all to make that the crux of the debate. IF they lose this, and I'm betting they will, it will open the door for States to challenge the Federal Government in all manner of "failing to" issues.
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