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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Your point is well taken. Maybe we sue the gov't for not doing their job? You know how much AZ has to spend on this issue because of the fed's lack of action?

    And, sadly, had AZ not passed the law, it would still be a non issue with Obama, and congress.

    How do we get the fed's off their ass to deal with this issue??

    We blame the prez, why not congress? McCain and Kyle for AZ try to be the poster boys of this issue in the senate, yet in 2008 neither were ringing the bell.
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    I think its an issue with them, they just can't get anyone to sign on with them. While not perfect, what they are asking for is better than what has been done. (nothing)

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Yeah, there is no bigotry involved in this issue.
    Yeah, I agree.

    I could give a rats ass about any of it. If blacks want to blame me for slavery and say I'm a bigot, or of the gay/lesbian/confused plumbing crowd want to call me a homophobe, Hooah

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    I disagree with you. I am against it because this is a federal responsibility. Why should my tax dollars go for enforcing this law?
    Again, your arguments don't make any sense at all. You believe it's a Fed Responsibility, but the Fed's are failing, but you don't want your "tax" dollars to enforce laws the Feds are (with your tax dollars) failing to enforce. It seems you're attempting to play principled objectionist to the law, but you have failed to make a coherient point as to why the law is bad.
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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Again, your arguments don't make any sense at all. You believe it's a Fed Responsibility, but the Fed's are failing, but you don't want your "tax" dollars to enforce laws the Feds are (with your tax dollars) failing to enforce. It seems you're attempting to play principled objectionist to the law, but you have failed to make a coherient point as to why the law is bad.
    Let me explain. My state tax dollars should not pay for immigration enforcement, my federal tax dollars should pay for it. What's the difference, in AZ we are sufferring a budget crisis. When we house, feed, arrest, and jail the law breakers on the AZ law, AZ pays for it, not the Feds. I am an objectionist to the law when it is enforced by a state rather than the feds. I understand completely why AZ did what they did, we had no choice, we are being over-ran. It could have been done better, e.g. address the profiling issue in the first version instead of the second, allow for someone other that a known bigot to sponsor the bill, and not be used by a lousy governor to gain political capital. I know these items may seem petty, but in retrospect, they hurt AZ by causing idiots to boycott us, and it gave us the label of being bigots.
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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seeing how the feds want to push Amnesty with hollow promises of enforcement like the Reagan Amnesty I will be satisfied for now with states doing what they can to crack down on illegal immigration.



    Praising Arizona: Lawmakers in nearly 20 other states pushing similar immigration legislation
    The link states "20 states" yet they only mention 5.

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    The link states "20 states" yet they only mention 5.
    Also, is it actually a law that will arrest illegal aliens if they are trespassing in the state? Or is it only penalties for those that employee, house, etc. Arizona did the employer sanction stuff and it did not help completely, sheriff Joe is still raiding places. Let's see how much balls the other states have to do what AZ did? If all fifty did it, they we'd actually have illegal immigration enforcement, not token.
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