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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh...this ought to be a LOT of fun...

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    The 287(g) program is only one component under the ICE ACCESS umbrella of services and programs offered for assistance to local law enforcement officers.

    ICE developed the ACCESS program in response to the widespread interest from local law enforcement agencies who have requested ICE assistance through the 287(g) program, which trains local officers to enforce immigration law as authorized through section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

    Only problem to that is that ICE is way undermanned, and underfunded, and when called upon to enforce the law, it seems they have been ordered to back off.


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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    The way i see it the government isnt doing jack**** to seal the border so then when Arizona turns around and says fine well deal with it on our own then the government punishes them for that? this is ridiculous unless we want the south west to be taken over drastic measures must be taken because nothing else has worked and now the Feds want to make all the illegals that are here already legal citizens, i mean i have no problem with immigrants coming here as long as its legal, but right now its like a title wave of people flowing over the border illegally.
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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    BOB CHRISTIE (AP) - Associated Press Writer PHOENIX The U.S. Justice Department is filing a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Arizona's tough new law targeting illegal immigrants.

    AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Well, now we know the case will be the Feds claiming Usurption.. is that a word?? of Federal Authority. Not smart at all to make that the crux of the debate. IF they lose this, and I'm betting they will, it will open the door for States to challenge the Federal Government in all manner of "failing to" issues.
    This is interesting to me. If the Feds lose, then maybe things will be reset to how they should be and Federal Immigration laws are found to be unconsitutional usurptation of each State's right to determine legal residency within that state.

    I hope Arizona wins and that happens. It'll be a huge day for State's rights.
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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    To put it simply...The people of Arizona are trying to head off the destiny that is Kalifornia.

    On a side note...The Fed Gov should get out of the business of providing education, health care, and social services, then illegals would no longer reap the benefits of those programs and would have to pay for all that **** themselves; one more reason to stay in their country and deal with the REAL issues that's squarely their responsibility, like immigration.

    Bottom line Congress should stop meddling with bull**** that they have no business ****ing with

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Bottom line Congress should stop meddling with bull**** that they have no business ****ing with
    Congress has no consitutional authority over immigration.
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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Congress has no consitutional authority over immigration.
    The Obama Executive Branch, which alone is responsible for enforcing immigration law and his fun and games cohorts in Congress

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The Obama Executive Branch, which alone is responsible for enforcing immigration law and his fun and games cohorts in Congress

    False. The Executive branch does not have constitutional authority over immigration.
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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by Goof Noodle View Post
    So you're saying we should get rid of The Constitution?
    Very good analogy.

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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Congress has no consitutional authority over immigration.
    That could be argued.......

    Section 9 - Limits on Congress

    The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
    This might be the part of the Constitution that the DOJ will argue gives the Fed control of Immigration.... it is now past 1808 so Congress is no longer prohibited from telling States who can migrate to said State.

    BTW, I don't think that argument is valid, but the courts might.
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    Re: AP Source: Feds suing to stop Ariz. immigrant law

    Quote Originally Posted by Goof Noodle View Post
    So you're saying we should get rid of The Constitution?
    I am talking about laws made by our elected officials, not constitutional enumerations.

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