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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Am I the only one having trouble understanding what this post means? I think there's words missing.
    You seem, the only one. I'll break it down nice n' easy....

    Obama is systematically dismantling our national space program and national pride at the same time.

    It's a tough task, but he seems up to the challenge. The challenge of hope and change

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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The pre-Islam Arab world made some leaps and bounds in both arenas, but ever since, the goat-****ers put the desert on full fail retard, they haven't done squat
    Wrong again, only people who have never read up on the achivements of Arabic Islamic peoples could possibly come up with such statements as you have uttered.
    The entire world has much to thank modern Arab Islamic peoples for such as, Medicines, Mathematics, Logic, Art, Music.
    It is quite true for you or any other Islamic hating person to say that in 'your opinion............'
    But simply to insinuate outright that since (in your words 'the goat-****ers put the desert on full fail retard, they haven't done squat') is not true.

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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Wrong again, only people who have never read up on the achivements of Arabic Islamic peoples could possibly come up with such statements as you have uttered.
    The entire world has much to thank modern Arab Islamic peoples for such as, Medicines, Mathematics, Logic, Art, Music.
    It is quite true for you or any other Islamic hating person to say that in 'your opinion............'
    But simply to insinuate outright that since (in your words 'the goat-****ers put the desert on full fail retard, they haven't done squat') is not true.
    Please tell me you are joking. The Islamic world simply became the caretaker of the ideas from the West and once the West got back on its feet, the Muslim world in the middle east went back to their primitive way of life.

    Go ahead and explain how most are still living as their ancestors did before this so called "golden age" today.

    You can then explain how women's rights have stayed hundreds of years in the past while the rest of the world matured around them.
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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Conservatives literally hate diplomacy.

    I mean, what would NASA know about contributions to science and engineering?
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm not against improving relations, I am against making "Muslim Outreach" a priority for NASA.
    From the linked article in the OP:
    "When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering," Bolden said in the interview.

    "It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim (nations)," he said.

    However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission -- in a distinctly non-diplomatic role.

    "Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.
    I heard snippets of this issue on Rush's show yesterday and for the life of me couldn't make the connection as to why he seemingly devoted a good 30 minutes of his show to NASA and the Muslim world's alleged contributions to the sciences (over-aggsagerated or otherwise). Now, I know why. So, the question really is this:

    What real contributions in sciences have Muslims truly made and where are Muslim nations currently on major issues in science that NASA could possibly benefit from?

    Sidenote: These people (Muslims) aren't stupid. As painful as it is for me to admit it, it took brains to pull off the 9/11 plot. Muslim countries like Iran are utilizing nuclear technology (be it for peace or surupticious reasons). Even India, which is predominately Hindu, has missle and space technology. So, from a diplomatic standpoint, what's the harm in developing a peaceful multi-nation coalition with other peaceful, space-faring nations regardless of their religious preference...since we are a nation that doesn't discriminate on religious grounds?

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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    From the linked article in the OP:


    I heard snippets of this issue on Rush's show yesterday and for the life of me couldn't make the connection as to why he seemingly devoted a good 30 minutes of his show to NASA and the Muslim world's alleged contributions to the sciences (over-aggsagerated or otherwise). Now, I know why. So, the question really is this:

    What real contributions in sciences have Muslims truly made and where are Muslim nations currently on major issues in science that NASA could possibly benefit from?

    Sidenote: These people (Muslims) aren't stupid. As painful as it is for me to admit it, it took brains to pull off the 9/11 plot. Muslim countries like Iran are utilizing nuclear technology (be it for peace or surupticious reasons). Even India, which is predominately Hindu, has missle and space technology. So, from a diplomatic standpoint, what's the harm in developing a peaceful multi-nation coalition with other peaceful, space-faring nations regardless of their religious preference...since we are a nation that doesn't discriminate on religious grounds?
    Cambodians--the Khmer Rouge--aren't stupid, either. But, do we really want NASA to improve relations with the Khmer Rouge?

    if someone suggested that NASA should improve relations with Christians, the Leftists would sound like a coup fulla chickens, "Churchandstate! Churchandstate! Churchandstate!"
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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    How dare he use some of the U.S.'s greatest intellects to try and improve our relations with the Muslims...Outrageous, He is so out of touch with America. Us Americans don't want peace with Muslims!

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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    The broader point I was trying to make (even though it will certainly rub folks the wrong way) is it took alot of thought and coordination to pull off something like that just as it takes lots of genius to harness the power of the atom. NASA hasn't been a truly "U.S. government" entity as far as space travel/exploration since the last Apollo moon shot, and although I'm all for the agency getting back to their spacefaring roots, the fact of the matter is as long as they see "commercial" space exploration as the future of space flight AND we continue to embrace the idea of multi-internationalism within lower Earth orbit, as well as future inner space missions (i.e., returning and future colonization of the moon, exploration of Mars, etc.), we may as well reach out as far as we can to "peaceful" nations the world over and that may very well include Muslim nations.

    But again and I repeat "peaceful Muslim nations" since apparently you missed that part in your reference to the Khmer Rouge. Now, what peaceful Muslim nations could that possibly include?

    Saudi Arabia...they've been a U.S. Middle-Eastern ally for years.

    Iraq in the not too distant future since they're undergoing regime change compliments of the U.S.

    Perhaps Pakistan...maybe, if they can get their act together and become more trust worthy.

    Eventually, maybe even Afghanistan once the war is over and U.S./Afghan relations improve.

    It's really not a stretch to believe that one day these nations could be brought into the fold of modern-day technology. So, unless we want other nations like China or Russia to broker sweetheart deals with them first, we'd better put our discriminative hate aside and find ways to broker peace...and soon.
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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Cambodians--the Khmer Rouge--aren't stupid, either. But, do we really want NASA to improve relations with the Khmer Rouge?

    if someone suggested that NASA should improve relations with Christians, the Leftists would sound like a coup fulla chickens, "Churchandstate! Churchandstate! Churchandstate!"
    Christian-American relations need mending do they?
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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Really? I could join that website and put on anything I like, just change a few words to convey a different meaning. How long do you think it would take for the owners of Wikipedia to discover my little changes? If I can do it, so can everybody else. I once looked up the definition of worker unions and discovered the altered definition of "a bunch of wankers jointed together to make life miserable for management." Yeah, that's real credible alright.
    So go do that? See how long it takes for your edit on Wikipedia to be reverted.

    Next, those are books that were quoted in my message (first one is published by MIT). I love how you have absolutely nothing to say in regards to those sources.

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    Re: NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Posting links of books is a sure sign you don't have a leg to stand on.

    Until you actually have quoted sites that can be scrutinized, don't waste our time.
    ROFL.

    Now I can't use books as sources?

    Apparently the only source texmaster finds acceptable is FoxNews.com.

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