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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    What do you think? It sounds over the top to me. Also, many illegals crash with relatives or friends. Isn't this taking matters too far in the fight against illegal immigration?

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    Are they paying their bill? If not, then cut their asses off. I've had my lights cut off before and no one gave a rat's hairy ass what the weather outside was like when they did it.
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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Well, SOME people don't know what the word "illegal" means in "illegal alien".

    The Americans, do, though..



    Why?

    There some law saying this? I distinctly recall calling OJ Simpson a murderer even before he was acquitted in that circus act in Los Angeles.

    Since it is a crime to enter the nation illegally, I'm perfect correct in calling people who break that law criminals, even when they don't ever get to wear County Orange.



    No, what's being advocated is persuasion for the criminals to go home.
    Again, being an illegal alien is not a crime..... it is a violation. It is not criminal to be here illegally. You can find many references to various court cases on the Internet.

    http://www.latinalista.net/palabrafi...e_country.html

    Even Arizona 1070 is clear on this...

    Being in state illegally not a crime under SB 1070



    Sorry, OJ is not a murderer under our system. It is wrong for people to treat him as a murderer. He was tried and found not guilty. He deserves no criminal sanctions for that particular crime.... that is a sidebar. You can only be a criminal if convicted of a crime. Being here illegally is only a crime in the minds of some, but not on the books of the US.
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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    So not true, kimosabe.... Being here illegally (without legality) is a violation much as driving 40 in a 35 MPH zone is a violation... not a crime. Getting a traffic ticket or being identified as an undocumented alien does not make you a criminal, but it is an indictment that you are inviolation of the law.
    If for example, Pablo, an illegal alien is beaten and robbed, then calls, the police and then IS deported because he is illegal. He is not being deported because, he reported a crime, but because he also committed one. He is here illegally.

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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    If for example, Pablo, an illegal alien is beaten and robbed, then calls, the police and then IS deported because he is illegal. He is not being deported because, he reported a crime, but because he also committed one. He is here illegally.
    1. this is exactly why most Arizona law enforcement is against 1070 as it will make their jobs that much tougher. People will be afraid to report crimes or work with the police to combat crime. This will allow Mexican gangs to operate within urban areas with impunity.

    2. It is not a crime to be here illegally.

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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    1. this is exactly why most Arizona law enforcement is against 1070 as it will make their jobs that much tougher. People will be afraid to report crimes or work with the police to combat crime. This will allow Mexican gangs to operate within urban areas with impunity.

    2. It is not a crime to be here illegally.
    You must be slow. It is absolutely a crime to be here illegally.

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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hmmm so this idiot wants to cut off power and gas (oddly not water) to illegals. How about reporting them and getting them deported instead? Another idiot republican trying to cash in on an xenophobic crazy hitting the US.
    Your partisan hackery gets worse everyday. Almost nothing you say makes sense. Your hate for America is so well entrenched and known it's a wonder why you would want to associate with us even through a website.
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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I agree. If you feed the hungry birds, you end up with more hungry birds. It you don't put out food for them, they'll go elsewhere. Basic fact of life.
    Perhaps Burger King should require that the clerks check for legal status.

    Better yet, have everyone in AZ, including the illegals, check everyone else for legal status. Simultaneously checking each other every minute of the day should get rid of the illegal population in AZ. Except of course, those with counterfeit citizen cards.

    Any true American worth his/her salt should converge upon AZ and start checking cards today.

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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    What do you think? It sounds over the top to me. Also, many illegals crash with relatives or friends. Isn't this taking matters too far in the fight against illegal immigration?

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    Illegals have taken extreme measures to get here and stay here, they will stop at nothing to cheat their way into the fabric of this country. They need to be rooted out and punished, like any other criminal. If they have a utility account, or someone else has set one up to cover for them....they should both be punished.
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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Perhaps Burger King should require that the clerks check for legal status.

    Better yet, have everyone in AZ, including the illegals, check everyone else for legal status. Simultaneously checking each other every minute of the day should get rid of the illegal population in AZ. Except of course, those with counterfeit citizen cards.

    Any true American worth his/her salt should converge upon AZ and start checking cards today.
    Illegals should be hounded wherever they go until they realize it's better to live in Mexico than to be here illegally. If you think it's harsh, look at how the Mexican handle illegals.
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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    1. this is exactly why most Arizona law enforcement is against 1070 as it will make their jobs that much tougher. People will be afraid to report crimes or work with the police to combat crime. This will allow Mexican gangs to operate within urban areas with impunity.
    You make a true point, here - but don't you think that it's slanted or purely selfish for someone to support/not support something just because it will change their job-requirements? If something happening poses a GREATER risk and threat to the economy and their state why wouldn't they be more supportive of efforts to bring it to an end?

    Their job is already to detain people and keep the peace - which already includes collecting information, following up on reports, filing statements and so on.

    I wonder: If their jobs were directly at stake of being given to illegals would they feel different?
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