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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Nope, I agree with your disagree!
    I agree with your agreement regarding the disagree!

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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Thank you for bringing substantive evidential matter to the debate. That said, this proves little than document that entering the country is illegal. I never quarreled with the legality of entering the country, only with its legal significance (crime vs. infraction) This cite does not specifically state it as a crime, only as an offense. Things can be illegal and have penalties without being a crime (traffic offenses). Violating this may only be a violation, which is held by many.

    Moreover and most germane to our discussion, it says nothing about being here illegally. A Kansas Appeals Court specifically held that being here illegally is not a crime (note paragraph 6).

    96613 -- State v. Martinez -- McAnany -- Kansas Court of Appeals

    I welcome your retort.

    That said, I will concede, based upon my own evidence per above, that the 2000 amendment to the statue made illegal entry a crime, but being here illegally is not crime, its a violation.
    A state court of appeals can't override Federal law. Isn't that what Obama's suit is saying to Arizona?
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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Deport them yes, cut their power that they have paid for no, that would be theft
    You pre-pay for power???
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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Doubt it. If illegals weren't draining the country through welfare and free social services, this wouldn't be a fraction of the problem it is.
    You mean the way Alabama drains the government by getting $1.66 in federal dollars for every $1 they put in?

    That's a 66% leaching of your state off of my tax dollars. So, I say we wall off Alabama so they'll stop taking my tax dollars from me.

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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I agree with your agreement regarding the disagree!
    Pass the popcorn. I need to think about this for a while.

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    Re: Arizona Candidate: Cut Off Power to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And what party gave their president a standing ovation for doing so in our own capital.

    Let me see........
    This problem goes way back. Hell, W. was here in Texas giving campaign speeches in Spanish.

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