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    On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

    The London-based Arabic newspaper, Al Hayat, reported this weekend that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas had proposed the creation of a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders, with a possible land swap of 2.3 percent of the West Bank to ensure a fair solution for Israeli settlement blocs. Al Hayat reported that the Palestinians agreed to leave settlement blocs including Gush Etzion, Pisgat Ze'ev and Modi'in Ilit, along with a swath of land overlooking Ben-Gurion International Airport, in Israeli hands.

    In exchange, the PA would receive land of comparable size and quality in the southern West Bank as well as a corridor between the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Abbas also reportedly proposed easing Palestinian demands over East Jerusalem to permit the Jewish Quarter of the Old City as well as the Western Wall to remain under Israeli sovereignty. The remainder of the Old City, he proposed, would become the capital of a Palestinian state but fully open to the adherents of all faiths.
    Good. The Palestinians are offering a completely reasonable and acceptable offer. Let us hope that Israel agrees to this, and lets hope the Gazans throw out Hamas and put in a government that will make a similar agreement.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

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    On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News



    Good. The Palestinians are offering a completely reasonable and acceptable offer. Let us hope that Israel agrees to this, and lets hope the Gazans throw out Hamas and put in a government that will make a similar agreement.
    We'll see how it plays out, every agreement and negotiation is ALWAYS contencious in these cases...

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

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    We'll see how it plays out, every agreement and negotiation is ALWAYS contencious in these cases...
    I'm happy that Fatah is offering this, as it is basically what the Israelis have been offering in the past. I just hope that whoever Abbas and Netanyahu have as their seconds in command agree to this too, in case either gets shot
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    The Israelis should seize this offer before it expires. That is, of course, if they actually want peace.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

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    The London-based Arabic newspaper, Al Hayat, reported this weekend that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas had proposed the creation of a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders, with a possible land swap of 2.3 percent of the West Bank to ensure a fair solution for Israeli settlement blocs. Al Hayat reported that the Palestinians agreed to leave settlement blocs including Gush Etzion, Pisgat Ze'ev and Modi'in Ilit, along with a swath of land overlooking Ben-Gurion International Airport, in Israeli hands.

    In exchange, the PA would receive land of comparable size and quality in the southern West Bank as well as a corridor between the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Abbas also reportedly proposed easing Palestinian demands over East Jerusalem to permit the Jewish Quarter of the Old City as well as the Western Wall to remain under Israeli sovereignty. The remainder of the Old City, he proposed, would become the capital of a Palestinian state but fully open to the adherents of all faiths.
    Good. The Palestinians are offering a completely reasonable and acceptable offer. Let us hope that Israel agrees to this, and lets hope the Gazans throw out Hamas and put in a government that will make a similar agreement.
    - I believe Israel has proposed a land swap for five settlement blocs. Abbas offers three. Maybe they will split the difference and agree on four.

    - There is no problem in principle with a corridor between the West Bank and Gaza. The problem is how to accomplish this without splitting Israel in half. I believe Israel has proposed an underground corridor similar to The Tube which connects England and France.

    - Jerusalem will be tricky. I personally have no major problem with the proposal by Abbas.

    - There was no mention by Abbas about the long-standing Palestinian insistence on "Right of Return". Israel will never agree to this demand since doing so would occasion a catastrophic shift in Israeli demographics.

    - Israel would vastly prefer to obtain a "final peace agreement with ALL Palestinians". If there is to be a transit corridor, how is Israel to differentiate between West Bank Palestinians (bound by a peace agreement) and Gaza Palestinians (still waging war with Israel)?

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Shayah View Post
    - I believe Israel has proposed a land swap for five settlement blocs. Abbas offers three. Maybe they will split the difference and agree on four.
    We'll see. It all depends on what works politically, and I know nowhere close to enough on this nitty-gritty

    - There is no problem in principle with a corridor between the West Bank and Gaza. The problem is how to accomplish this without splitting Israel in half. I believe Israel has proposed an underground corridor similar to The Tube which connects England and France.
    Even if it's just a single highway, would that be an issue?

    - Jerusalem will be tricky. I personally have no major problem with the proposal by Abbas.

    - There was no mention by Abbas about the long-standing Palestinian insistence on "Right of Return". Israel will never agree to this demand since doing so would occasion a catastrophic shift in Israeli demographics.
    Would the right let them return to Israel proper, or just the Palestinian areas?

    - Israel would vastly prefer to obtain a "final peace agreement with ALL Palestinians". If there is to be a transit corridor, how is Israel to differentiate between West Bank Palestinians (bound by a peace agreement) and Gaza Palestinians (still waging war with Israel)?
    Would a suitable checkpoint be enough?
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    The Israelis should seize this offer before it expires. That is, of course, if they actually want peace.
    I'm sorry, I think you meant to say "While the PA still pretends it's after peace"
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm sorry, I think you meant to say "While the PA still pretends it's after peace"
    What about this offer makes you think they don't want peace?
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

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    Even if it's just a single highway, would that be an issue?
    Certainly, since it implies sovereign territory. An overland sovereign highway would effectively split Israel in half. Imagine a highway between New York and San Diego which belongs to another sovereign nation and cannot be crossed without permission. This is why an underground corridor has been proposed. It satisfies the needs of both parties.

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    Would the right let them return to Israel proper, or just the Palestinian areas?
    The Right of Return as promulgated by the Palestinians includes Israel proper.

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    Would a suitable checkpoint be enough?
    Why should Israel again be forced to police the Palestinians? Doesn't it make more sense to have ALL Palestinians agree to a final settlement and govern themselves?

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    As I understand, you essentially have two leadership groups right now, and Abbas only speaks for one.
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