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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Which states territory are they occupying again?
    The Palestinians territory, they do exist, they are human beings living on that land.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1948theft View Post
    If by control you mean living on their ancestral homeland yes. here are some maps to give you a better idea.
    Attachment 67112018 light orange is Palestinians land in 1947
    Attachment 67112019Dark green is Palestinian population in 1947
    Dude why do you have to lie? The first map clearly says "Palestinian and Publicly owned land" here's a map that's actually worth a damn and differentiates between Arab, Jewish, and State owned land:




    Now here's a map of the actual partition plan which cut through district lines:



    Now we can see the district of Beersheba was 85% Crown Land, and Beersheba (the Negev) alone accounted for 60% of the total land mass allocated to the nascent Jewish state. Now the problem with your second map is that it does not take into account the fact that the partition plan cut through district lines, the fact of the matter is that Jews had a majority in the land allocated for the Jewish state, appx. 500,000 Jews versus 400,000 Arabs. Your maps are highly misleading as they a) don't divide crown land from arab land and b) they don't recognize the fact that the partition plan cut through district lines. This is a typical statistical device used by propragandists to suit their purposes.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1948theft View Post
    Not going to happen
    it's against U.N. resolution 303
    Pfft, a General Assembly resolution isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1948theft View Post
    The Palestinians territory, they do exist, they are human beings living on that land.
    There is no Palestinian state. So again I ask which states territory is Israel occupying? This is disputed territory not occupied territory.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1948theft View Post
    How did I 'misrepresent the study'?i merely posted what was stated about the study. And this is what was stated.
    Because this is actually what the study said versus what you and your source say the study said:


    ...Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin differed from the other Middle Eastern populations studied here, mainly in specific high-frequency Eu 10 haplotypes not found in the non-Arab groups. These chromosomes might have been introduced through migrations from the Arabian Peninsula during the last two millennia. The present study contributes to the elucidation of the complex demographic history that shaped the present-day genetic landscape in the region....

    ...the Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews. According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the Arabian Peninsula, as is seen in the Arab-specific Eu 10 chromosomes that include the modal haplotypes observed in Palestinians and Bedouin... The study demonstrates that the Y chromosome pool of Jews is an integral part of the genetic landscape of the region and, in particular, that Jews exhibit a high degree of genetic affinity to populations living in the north of the Fertile Crescent.

    The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East
    The study shows that the early lineage which the Palestinians have in the region comes from an early population pool shared with the Jews and that the Palestinian and Bedouins have strong genetic Arab ties which other Middle Eastern populations in the region don't have. Not only does it prove that the Jews have a strong genetic afinity towards the region but that the Palestinians are the product of Arab invasion or in other words the only thing that makes the Palestinians genetically compatible with the region is that they are descendents of Jews.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1948theft View Post
    The Palestinians territory, they do exist, they are human beings living on that land.

    Hmmm....So you believe in squatters rights? So let's see, if you owned a property here, and I came in and started living within your boundaries, and said I was not leaving because I lay claim to that land. Then you should just give up your land?


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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm....So you believe in squatters rights? So let's see, if you owned a property here, and I came in and started living within your boundaries, and said I was not leaving because I lay claim to that land. Then you should just give up your land?
    True. Only in case the original owner of the squattered land was either killed or sold as slave, as the Yamasees and Cherokees were.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post

    What we need is for Israel to finally recognize that it is occupying Jerusalem.
    Or, we could try lobbying for honesty and historical accuracy, instead.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm....So you believe in squatters rights? So let's see, if you owned a property here, and I came in and started living within your boundaries, and said I was not leaving because I lay claim to that land. Then you should just give up your land?


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    So you belive the Ottomans/British had a legitimate right to the land? On what basis? was our "ownership" of India legitimate as well?
    Last edited by Red_Dave; 07-07-10 at 11:04 AM.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1948theft View Post
    The Palestinians territory, they do exist, they are human beings living on that land.
    Who didn't bother to invent themselves as "Palestinians" until it was politically expedient to do so.

    Before the last few decades they just considered themselves Arabs, and last time I looked there was more land per capita under Arab control than there is Jewish.
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