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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And what we need is the Arabs to agree to stop fighting and recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Ramallah can serve just nicely as the Palestinian capital, as far as I am concerned...
    Tel Aviv can serve as the capital of Israel as far as I am concerned (it basically is right now).

    What we need is for Israel to finally recognize that it is occupying Jerusalem.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    This is how I've always seen it: I consider myself a Terran (because Earthling sounds silly). I am an American. I am a Californian. I am a Norcali. I am a Sacramentan. I am a midtowner (my part of Sacramento.) If you had to ask which one of those I am, or which one I gave my ultimate loyalties or identity to, I'm not sure if I could really narrow it down. I assume that other people have the same list of identities and allegiences. Just because they were also Ottomans or Arabs or Syrians doesn't mean they weren't also Palestinians just as me being an American doesn't stop me from being a Sacramentan.
    Yes but you were attirbuting that "Palestinian identity" to the Palestinian Arabs that are now known as the "Palestinians".
    Back then the Palestinian Jews (modern Israelis), Palestinian Arabs and the rest of the citizens of the occupied non-sovereign land known as "Palestine" were all equal before the law, and have all shared the same identity, so there is no logic behind your words here.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    According to Israel.
    Absolutely wrong, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel according to the facts, it is a fact that it is not recognized as so but it is also a fact that it is so.
    If the entire world won't recognize Washington D.C. as the capital of the United States of America, it wouldn't change the fact that it is the capital of the USA.
    In the eyes of what 'law'? Israeli law or international law?
    As far as international law is concerned, there is nothing that permits the designation of another sovereign state's capital by foreign states.
    As I said, there is no law that allows the international community to designate another state's capital. As Wikipedia, the CIA world factbook, and the rest of the reliable sources would tell you, Jerusalem is Israel's capital.
    That is disingenuous. Both the CIA World Factbook and Wikipedia state that Jerusalem's is proclaimed as Israel's capital by Israel and that this proclaimation is disputed by the rest of the world. And it's all that matters to you. To the rest of the world, Jerusalem's status is disputed.
    Both the CIA world factbook and Wikipedia write "Jerusalem" under Israel's capital.
    Wow... 43 whole years! That is such a long time compared to two milleniums of history in Jerusalem!
    If you're going milleniums back then I can just cite the Israeli kingdoms and their control of the city - it doesn't benefit you.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Tel Aviv can serve as the capital of Israel as far as I am concerned (it basically is right now).

    What we need is for Israel to finally recognize that it is occupying Jerusalem.
    What we need is for the world to recognize Israel's sovereignity and control over Jerusalem and recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, as it is right now.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    why not have Jerusalem as the capital of both, and have it governed by a neutral third party.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    That land was never under the control of the "Palestinian Arabs".
    Never in history did the group known back then to be the "Palestinian Arabs" and known now to be the "Palestinians" have ever controlled the land.
    If by control you mean living on their ancestral homeland yes. here are some maps to give you a better idea.
    JewishOwnedLandInPalestineAsOf1947.jpg light orange is Palestinians land in 1947
    Map5_OwnerShip.jpgDark green is Palestinian population in 1947

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    why not have Jerusalem as the capital of both, and have it governed by a neutral third party.
    A sovereignity over one's capital is key to the sovereignity of the nation in its whole.
    I can't see Jerusalem governed by a foreign entity from the same reason I can't see Sydeny governed by a foreign entity.

    Besides that I've already stated that I think the Palestinians should be given the Arab quarter of East Jerusalem, since I can't see what use Israel has for it.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1948theft View Post
    If by control you mean living on their ancestral homeland yes. here are some maps to give you a better idea.
    By control I'm referring to a sovereign state ruled and led by the Palestinians.

    Besides that, spare me the maps and the youtube vids, I have no interest in your propaganda.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    What we need is for the world to recognize Israel's sovereignity and control over Jerusalem and recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, as it is right now.
    Not going to happen
    it's against U.N. resolution 303

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Tel Aviv can serve as the capital of Israel as far as I am concerned (it basically is right now).

    What we need is for Israel to finally recognize that it is occupying Jerusalem.
    Which states territory are they occupying again?

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