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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    It matters very little what the PLO offers, what is of far greater importance is what will Hamas accept (if anything), because without Hamas agreement, not only for whatever deal is hammered out but also for complete acceptance of previously signed agreements. Whatever is finally decided will not be worth the paper it will be written on.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    History. Israel has been burned far too many times in the past. One prays for Peace, and one HOPES this is a legit move. However, to suggest, as Orion did that Israel isn't interested in Peace is patently dishonest.
    Most of the time things go south, it is the Palestinian's fault, but not always. Wasn't there an Israeli PM who was assassinated by Jewish Fundamentalists for proposing to give up parts of the west bank?
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Israel should have 100% control of all their capital city. Palestine should receive none of it and there should be no partitioning of the Israeli capital.
    There is a massive Palestinian population in the eastern part of the city. To not give that part of the city to the Palestinians would be denying them land that has long been theirs.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    There is a massive Palestinian population in the eastern part of the city. To not give that part of the city to the Palestinians would be denying them land that has long been theirs.
    Well, perhaps the Arabs shouldn't have started the wars with the State of Israel... when you lose wars you start, you usually lose territory...
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's PeteEU, special envoy for promoting the European Promotion of the Palastinian Cause, what do you expect from him Shayah?
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yep. Jerusalem is Israel's capitol city, they should have the right to all of their capitol and not partition it.
    Except no one recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. It's not "their" capital. I suggest actually learning the history of Jerusalem before posting statements that are ignorant of historical relevance.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    He completely misrepresented the study, the study proves that not only do Jews have a strong genetic afinity for the region but that Palestinians have an Arab specific genetic marker which separates them from the rest of the Middle Eastern population in the region.
    How did I 'misrepresent the study'?i merely posted what was stated about the study. And this is what was stated.
    Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians,[15][16] together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    There is a massive Palestinian population in the eastern part of the city. To not give that part of the city to the Palestinians would be denying them land that has long been theirs.
    That land was never under the control of the "Palestinian Arabs".
    Never in history did the group known back then to be the "Palestinian Arabs" and known now to be the "Palestinians" have ever controlled the land.
    It was, since the 20th century, under Ottoman control, under British control, under Jewish control, under Jordanian control and now under Jewish control again.
    I do agree however that there are certain parts in East Jerusalem where there are Arab population centers, and that's why I believe that in a final conclusive agreement Israel should give the Palestinians the Arab quarter of the city.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Except no one recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. It's not "their" capital. I suggest actually learning the history of Jerusalem before posting statements that are ignorant of historical relevance.
    Well actually you'd find out that no country has the right to designate a capital to a nation except the nation itself.
    By law, when Israel has designated Jerusalem as its capital, it has made it its capital.
    This is why you'd find "Jerusalem" under the title "Capital" when searching about Israel in major sources such as the CIA factbook and Wikipedia.
    It is the Israeli capital and that's not going to change.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Well actually you'd find out that no country has the right to designate a capital to a nation except the nation itself.
    Well I never said that a foreign country could do that. I merely said no country in the world recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
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    By law, when Israel has designated Jerusalem as its capital, it has made it its capital.
    Care to cite this 'law'?
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    This is why you'd find "Jerusalem" under the title "Capital" when searching about Israel in major sources such as the CIA factbook and Wikipedia.
    Yes, with a nice little side note added to it:
    Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Jerusalem Law states that "Jerusalem, complete and united, is the capital of Israel" and the city serves as the seat of the government, home to the President's residence, government offices, supreme court, and parliament. United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 (Aug. 20, 1980; 14–0, U.S. abstaining) declared the Jerusalem Law "null and void" and called on member states to withdraw their diplomatic missions from Jerusalem. The United Nations and all member nations refuse to accept the Jerusalem Law (see Kellerman 1993, p. 140) and maintain their embassies in other cities such as Tel Aviv, Ramat Gan, and Herzliya (see the CIA Factbook and Map of Israel).
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    It is the Israeli capital and that's not going to change.
    Only time will tell.

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