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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Shayah View Post
    US Special Envoy Mitchell reports directly to Obama on the pace and substance of the mutual negotiations. So far, Obama is satisfied with both aspects and steady progress is being made.

    As always, tiresome rhetoric is a poor substitute for dynamical understanding and comprehension.
    It's PeteEU, special envoy for promoting the European Promotion of the Palastinian Cause, what do you expect from him Shayah?
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

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    The underground tunnel sounds intelligent as well.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

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    It's PeteEU, special envoy for promoting the European Promotion of the Palastinian Cause, what do you expect from him Shayah?
    I expect very little from Pete, and he rarely disappoints me.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    I wish they would start talking about a three state solution instead of a two, as this would address the issues of the corridor as well as the leadership, making the corridor unnecessary, and more easily accommodating the fraction between Hamas and Fatah. Especially considering that the most influential clans in the west bank and Gaza have always been different and the fact that Palestinian identity is such a completely modern invention to begin with, I see no reason it should be written in stone that they should seek a two state solution.

    With a three state solution, if the West bank proves to be sincerely interested in peace and follows suit with actions and Gaza remains a terrorist hellhole, then at least some of the Palestinians will be living in peace and Israel would only need to concentrate on Gaza.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I wish they would start talking about a three state solution instead of a two, as this would address the issues of the corridor as well as the leadership, making the corridor unnecessary, and more easily accommodating the fraction between Hamas and Fatah. Especially considering that the most influential clans in the west bank and Gaza have always been different and the fact that Palestinian identity is such a completely modern invention to begin with, I see no reason it should be written in stone that they should seek a two state solution.

    With a three state solution, if the West bank proves to be sincerely interested in peace and follows suit with actions and Gaza remains a terrorist hellhole, then at least some of the Palestinians will be living in peace and Israel would only need to concentrate on Gaza.
    I had considered the three state solution. If the West Bank worked out well it would be a good example for Gaza. Gazans may be more inclined to oust their leaders as they have failed where other Palestinians have achieved success.

    Of course, it may make things a bit more complex and bring about issues I haven't thought of.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I wish they would start talking about a three state solution instead of a two, as this would address the issues of the corridor as well as the leadership, making the corridor unnecessary, and more easily accommodating the fraction between Hamas and Fatah. Especially considering that the most influential clans in the west bank and Gaza have always been different and the fact that Palestinian identity is such a completely modern invention to begin with, I see no reason it should be written in stone that they should seek a two state solution.

    With a three state solution, if the West bank proves to be sincerely interested in peace and follows suit with actions and Gaza remains a terrorist hellhole, then at least some of the Palestinians will be living in peace and Israel would only need to concentrate on Gaza.
    The Three-State solution sounds attractive and seems rational, but I (and perhaps Abbas) consider it as only a temporary fix. Somewhere down the line, Gazans will throw off the Hamas yoke and seek unification with the West Bank. Accomplishing this will be much easier and safer if the legal mechanics and political machinery are already in place.

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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL and so what if Mitchell is monitoring the negotiations? Seriously the history of these peace talks has been one side or another saying no and then radicals on both sides start to open fire at each other. This will never ever change as long as both sides do not deal with the radicals among them, and considering Israel has a PM who easily could be called a radical, then well..
    What exactly in PM Netanyahu's opinions do you find to be "radical"?
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    What exactly in PM Netanyahu's opinions do you find to be "radical"?
    You just need to be able to understand Petespeak, Apoc.

    In a world where Hamas is the very epitome of all things moderate and reasonable........
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Shayah View Post
    The Three-State solution sounds attractive and seems rational, but I (and perhaps Abbas) consider it as only a temporary fix. Somewhere down the line, Gazans will throw off the Hamas yoke and seek unification with the West Bank. Accomplishing this will be much easier and safer if the legal mechanics and political machinery are already in place.
    Perhaps, then, the better approach should be for a two state solution that excludes Gaza.
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    Re: On eve of Obama-Netanyahu meet, Abbas offers Jerusalem compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Perhaps, then, the better approach should be for a two state solution that excludes Gaza.
    If the exclusion is considered migratory, then yes. If the exclusion is considered permanent, then no. One must at some point in time account for a unification. It is far easier and less risky to construct a document in-toto now rather than reopening negotiations to tack on additional amendments at a later date.

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