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    Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

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    A massive ship converted into a “super skimmer” has arrived in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico to assist with cleanup of the BP oil spill, a government spokeswoman said Thursday.
    The 335-meter-long ore and oil carrier, dubbed the “A Whale,” is being provided by the owner, TMT Shipping of Taiwan, and can collect 500,000 barrels per day of contaminated water, said Chris Coulon, a spokeswoman for the joint incident command.
    Nice to see that once again Taiwan is acting as a friend to the United States and sending assistance when it is needed.

    According to what I just saw on CNN, they are still assessing the environmental impact of returning the water back into the Gulf after this ship has skimmed it. THis I simply don't understand. Surely, returning nearly oil-free water to the Gulf can't be nearly as bad as leaving the oil in there....
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    According to what I just saw on CNN, they are still assessing the environmental impact of returning the water back into the Gulf after this ship has skimmed it. THis I simply don't understand. Surely, returning nearly oil-free water to the Gulf can't be nearly as bad as leaving the oil in there....
    Because the skimming process doesnt remove all the oil from the water.
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Because the skimming process doesnt remove all the oil from the water.
    Wouldn't it be better to remove MOST of the oil rather than leave it all in there?
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to remove MOST of the oil rather than leave it all in there?
    Yes it would be

    I expect they want to ensure however that the method of removing the oil does not produce even more toxic substances.

    If it is a purely mechanical method of purification then there is not likely to be a problem, a chemical and/or heat methods of purification might produce a more toxic substance
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Because the skimming process doesnt remove all the oil from the water.
    It doesn't remove all the oil, so let's just leave things as they are. That's trully brilliant.
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to remove MOST of the oil rather than leave it all in there?
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    It doesn't remove all the oil, so let's just leave things as they are. That's trully brilliant.
    It isnt done for the same reason we dont blow up an asteroid on an impact course for Earth; you take one big problem and turn it into thousands of smaller and harder to see problems.

    Removing what you can see from the water doesn't guarantee that you've removed everything. You can leave behind residue that is harder to detect and harder to capture but will still cause environmental damage.
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    It isnt done for the same reason we dont blow up an asteroid on an impact course for Earth; you take one big problem and turn it into thousands of smaller and harder to see problems.

    Removing what you can see from the water doesn't guarantee that you've removed everything. You can leave behind residue that is harder to detect and harder to capture but will still cause environmental damage.
    Again, let's just do nothing...because...well...that would be like, better. The common sense definciency in our country blows me away.

    And somehow, Libbos expect to be taken seriously. Incredible!
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Removing what you can see from the water doesn't guarantee that you've removed everything. You can leave behind residue that is harder to detect and harder to capture but will still cause environmental damage.
    So, the solution is not to capture ANY of it and let ALL of it sit there in the Gulf, swirl around, get beached and possibly get caught up in the Gulf Stream... yeah, great logic....

    Or, is this because some of you are too proud to accept help from a small island country on the other side of the world that doesn't speak English?!?!?
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Again, let's just do nothing...because...well...that would be like, better. The common sense definciency in our country blows me away.

    And somehow, Libbos expect to be taken seriously. Incredible!
    Uh, that's not what he said.

    He's aganist replacing a smaller problem with a bigger problem. So yes, in that context, leaving the smaller problem in place is a preferable choice then replacing it with a larger problem.

    You don't refinance your 5% mortgage with a 4.9% that comes with a string of rules, points and costs that makes it far less financially appealing then your current rate. If the outcome is worse then the current situation, doing nothing is preferable.

    If you expect to be taken seriously you need to respond to what he said and not an obvious fabrication of your own design.
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Uh, that's not what he said.

    He's aganist replacing a smaller problem with a bigger problem. So yes, in that context, leaving the smaller problem in place is a preferable choice then replacing it with a larger problem.

    You don't refinance your 5% mortgage with a 4.9% that comes with a string of rules, points and costs that makes it far less financially appealing then your current rate. If the outcome is worse then the current situation, doing nothing is preferable.

    If you expect to be taken seriously you need to respond to what he said and not an obvious fabrication of your own design.
    That's exactly what he said. We're not talking about refinancing a mortgage. Perhaps you're on the wrong thread? Learn to read, for once. Thank you!

    Replacing a smaller problem with a bigger problem? Let's see, removing oil from the water is going to make the GOM oil slick worse...how? If that's the idea here, then stupidity reigns supreme.
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