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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    I'm glad the Taiwanese ship has arrived. The spill is reaching outrageous proportions with all the new oil ejected each day. How it has been permitted to go on for this long is beyond me.

    Now I hope we can cut through the bureaucratic red tape and put this ship to work. It would be nice to have this resolved before oil starts flowing to Canada.

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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you clean your kitchen counter with a dish rag once and the grease isn't gone, what do you do? Go over it again, right?

    Duuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

    If it takes two passes, then make two passes. That's just some more-a-that-good-ole-common sense. I know it's hard for some folks.
    Speaking as one who has cleaned many a counter with many a rag I can say that your analogy is a complete reason of WHY Obvious Child is correct. If you have a rag and you wipe something with it and it's still not clean then wiping at it more and more might not help because your rag is probably dirty from doing so much work (it would be sort of like a giant skimmer using chemicals to try to take away one mess by replacing it with another). You can make as many passes as you want but until you're sure your rag is clean (or that your skimmer doesn't cause more harm then good) there is no reason to keep trying. You're just wasting time and energy which could be spent loading the dishwasher.

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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I'm glad the Taiwanese ship has arrived. The spill is reaching outrageous proportions with all the new oil ejected each day. How it has been permitted to go on for this long is beyond me.

    Now I hope we can cut through the bureaucratic red tape and put this ship to work. It would be nice to have this resolved before oil starts flowing to Canada.
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It isn't often we agree, but on this one, I am in wholehearted agreement with you...
    Rest assured, on the less subjective topics of discussion I am a very matter-of-fact person.

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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It can't be fully cleaned as it is. We have no way of fully cleaning it. So, the solution is to let it remain in the Gulf until some super new technology comes about (in a hundred years or so that WILL fully clean it?!?!? Please, tell us what more effective method there is of cleaning this up RIGHT NOW than the Taiwanese A Whale skimmer! Please, the world would really like to know... How can ANY SOLUTION we have right now be any better than this?!?! Dispertants are better? You like dumping thousands of liters of disperants on it every day?!? Is that the better solution, because at the moment, that IS the solution -- save for those tiny boats skimming a small fraction of oil in the Gulf now and NOT skimming 100% of it either, for the record. Or, is this because some Taiwanese businessman put a PRIVATE, COMMERCIAL solution to a problem the government has not been able to solve!?!? Is that is?!?!?

    I am having a problem believing the left can actually be this moronic...
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I am having a problem believing the left can actually be this moronic..
    I'm having a problem believing the right can actually be this moronic. Oh, wait a minute. Maybe so...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Again, let's just do nothing...because...well...that would be like, better. The common sense definciency in our country blows me away.
    No one here has said or implied that the solution is to "do nothing" at all. NO ONE.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, so sense we can't achieve 99.999999% purity, let's do nothing.
    Neither has anyone here suggested that, "since we can't achieve 99.999999% purity, let's do nothing." NO ONE.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It can't be fully cleaned as it is. We have no way of fully cleaning it. So, the solution is to let it remain in the Gulf until some super new technology comes about (in a hundred years or so that WILL fully clean it?!?!?
    No one has here said or implied that the solution is "is to let it remain in the Gulf until some super new technology comes about." NO ONE.

    FFS. Pull your heads out of your butts, READ WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, and stop trying to cram your wildly ignorant and apparently intentional misinterpretations down others' necks. Your insistence that people are saying things they simply are not is as obvious as it is absurd.

    You two are flat wrong, here.

    End of story.

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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozengale View Post
    Speaking as one who has cleaned many a counter with many a rag I can say that your analogy is a complete reason of WHY Obvious Child is correct. If you have a rag and you wipe something with it and it's still not clean then wiping at it more and more might not help because your rag is probably dirty from doing so much work (it would be sort of like a giant skimmer using chemicals to try to take away one mess by replacing it with another). You can make as many passes as you want but until you're sure your rag is clean (or that your skimmer doesn't cause more harm then good) there is no reason to keep trying. You're just wasting time and energy which could be spent loading the dishwasher.
    Well, common sense would dictate getting a clean rag, just like, I'm sure, this skimmer ship has filters/scrubbers that require replacement when they are too contaminated to work. But, I know how common sense is a premium now-a-days.
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    No one here has said or implied that the solution is to "do nothing" at all. NO ONE.
    What spill response tactic/strategy have you supported/suggested?

    Did you support:

    Burning?

    Skimming?

    Sand Berms?

    Seriously, aside from a buncha clowns doing a half-assed job of policing tarballs on the beach, what have you supported?
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Still see nothing constructive from the liberals here. We have something that will help take a SIGNIFICANT portion of oil out of the water... something that will be more effective than any non-natural process brought to the fore to date and they still oppose it and can't come up with a better solution.

    Must be great to be a liberal. You can condemn and criticize all day long without coming up with a better solution. The Coast Guard and the US government are just ticked off that this Taiwanese businessman came up with a solution and crashed the party without an invite...
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    Re: Taiwanese oil 'super skimmer' arrives in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, common sense would dictate getting a clean rag, just like, I'm sure, this skimmer ship has filters/scrubbers that require replacement when they are too contaminated to work. But, I know how common sense is a premium now-a-days.
    Yes that would be the common sense thing to do. But what if you didn't know the rag was dirty? I'm not sure how the whole cleaning process works so I'm just going off of Obvious Child's statements and playing devils advocate. From what he said it sounds like they use powerful chemicals to clean the water then release it back. If we don't know how harmful the chemicals are or are not then we are blindly picking up a rag and wiping. So yes common sense says to not use a dirty rag and get a clean one. But what you're saying is we should blindly pick a rag and not check if it is dirty, then use it. We have a chance for success and a chance we just make a bigger mess. Obvious Child is saying that we should make sure we don't do the bigger mess bit.

    I know thinking through analogies can be difficult but please don't just assume I'm leaving out common sense

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