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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Yes, that right is mentioned in the Constitution. The fact that marriage is a fundamental right comes from court rulings. Two specific ones, in fact.
    What are they?
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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What are they?
    you aren't aware of the "if I feel its a right" it must be in the constitution?

    sort of like the general welfare clause authorizing income redistribution and free health care



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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you aren't aware of the "if I feel its a right" it must be in the constitution?

    sort of like the general welfare clause authorizing income redistribution and free health care
    Oh, those.
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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh, those.
    it worked for FDR and his poodles dressed up in black robes



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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    Seems everything that comes out of Chicago is stupid and corrupt, except the Blues and pizza.
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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Per the article:


    According to the SCotUS, the right to arms is a fundamental right, proctected by the Constitution.

    As such, restrictions on fundamental rights are subjected to a strict scrutiny test to determine of they violate the constitution. Under this test, the restriction is assumned to be unconstitutional until proven otherwise.

    For those that support this new law or the things included in it:
    Under the terms of strict scrunity, show that these things do not violate the constitution.
    Do I have to take 5 hours of training every month that I buy a gun? Does this mean if I buy 12 guns this year that I will have had 60 hours of training? The law is already unclear.

    With all these gun restrictions, it sure hasn't stopped crime. I laughed at the alderman's complaint about the supreme court justices not having lived in Chicago and not knowing how bad the crime is. The crime would have been non-existent had law-abiding citiziens been allowed to have guns since 1982.

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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, no its not.
    Yes, yes it is.
    You can repeat your lie till you choke on it but it's not going to be accepted as true

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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    What were y'all arguing about again? I forgot.

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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    I laughed at the alderman's complaint about the supreme court justices not having lived in Chicago and not knowing how bad the crime is. The crime would have been non-existent had law-abiding citiziens been allowed to have guns since 1982.
    I laughed because Washington DC, not Chicago, has been named "Murder Capital of the World". You know, the other city that had their complete ban on guns taken to the Supreme Court and had it rejected.

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    Re: Chicago approves new handgun restrictions

    The second amendment is the most disproportionately hyped amendment... The original rationale of allowing the people to overthrow the government if need be is no longer relevant. Military capabilities just radically exceed anything you could counter with over the counter firearms. The notion that a gun provides for self defense is highly suspect. Most studies show that it actually makes you less safe, not more. Even if it was effective for self defense, stranger violence practically doesn't exist at all in the US. Your odds of being murdered by a stranger are approximately 1 in a million each year... So, it basically just comes down to people like guns because they think they're cool or they have some insecurity they're trying to make up for or whatever.

    So, fine, we get it. Some people like guns and the right to have them is protected by the constitution. Cool beans. Nobody is trying to take away the right to have guns, they just don't want you to use them responsibly and to put some limits on them in high population density places where it's really easy for a stray bullet to hit somebody. No big deal, just chill out and focus your energies on something useful instead...

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