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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Kind of over the top isn't it Jet?

    You aren't suggesting that people who want the border enforced are all gun crazed hermits do you? Because judging from the polls that would be a majority of the country.
    Securing the border is one thing... killing innocents to do it is something else entirely...

    I doubt the "Majority" of the population supports THAT!

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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You mean as opposed to opening those jobs to lawfull residents who are being denied jobs, and thus not paying taxes? I'm not opposed to getting Americans in those jobs so Americans can pay the taxes.
    If citizens wanted those jobs they could take them right now. Any employer would prefer to hire a documented worker obviously. No. The opposite would happen. There are entire industries that could not survive in the US without undocumented workers, and those industries employ citizens. Remove the undocumented workers, you remove those jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Yes, why reward the lawbreaker with permanent legal residency when, by kicking them out, an American can get a job and provide for HIS family, instead?
    I mean, if magic were an option, sure, I'd want them all kicked out despite the economic hit. But magic isn't real. You can't just wish them away... It costs us $113k per person we deport presently, and that's mostly ones who are already in the system... The cost goes way up as you start trying to actually find people out in the world. Even if the cost stayed at $113k, it woud still cost us over $1 trillion to deport all the illegal immigrants... In reality, we could spend easily $5 trillion just to get half of them...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    FYI, the phrase "going down", when you're outside of San Francisco, means "decreasing", not "increasing", though we can see way that concept might be confused in San Francisco.
    Oh, lol. I meant to say decreasing. Which it has been:

    that the nation's illegal immigrant population has declined by nearly 1 million has sharpened the debate over whether to legalize those remaining or allow their numbers to shrink through attrition.

    The number of illegal immigrants living in the United States dropped to 10.8 million in 2009 from 11.6 million in 2008, marking the second consecutive year of decline and the sharpest decrease in at least three decades, according to a report this week by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

    Illegal immigrant numbers plunge - Los Angeles Times
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, the number hasn't been falling. But let's pretend they are. That means, instead of having 30,000,000 illegal Mexican criminals in the US, we now have 28,000,000 illegal Mexican criminals in the United States, which is 28,000,000 illegal Mexican criminals too many.
    LOL. 28 million... Wherever you are getting your information about the world from is not a credible source.... We're down to about 10 million...

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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    actually there is a way to almost fix it 100%.. but the US is not ready to go that way... it is called a national ID that is required for everything from having a bank account, drivers license to owning and renting homes to getting a job or go to school.
    Exactly like Mexico has.

    Without the IFE card you can't do anything. Nobody accepts a drivers license for anything.

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