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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    "Yes we can" secure the border.... Oh wait...

    We can absolutely enforce border security and make it much harder to enter illegally. We can crack down on businesses who hire illegals and enforce the laws we already have. Obama just wants amnesty, he doesn't want to enforce immigration laws and this is evident in how he is treating AZ and their new law. Politics are to blame for immigration delay, but it's due to Democrats wanting amnesty and "immigration reform" and not enforcing are laws and securing our border.
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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You must have missed the portion in time when polls were showing large amount of conservative disagreement and anger towards George W. Bush for pushing Comprehensive Immigration Reform rather than Secure the Border first and then address the rest.

    For all the ways people like to throw around how fanatical republicans were to George Bush, its incredibly dishonest to suggest that the vast majority of Republicans and Conservatives were extremely upset and against him with regards to Immigration.
    Yep, soo much anger that they voted for him again in 2004. Yep, that's a lot of anger

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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Thanks Obama for this great "Change from Politics of Usual".

    - Accuse the other side of stalling when you have a super majority = Check.
    - Accuse the other side of playing partisan politics when you're doing just that = Check.
    - Acucse the othe side of using election year politics when you've put the issue off up until its time for elections = Check.

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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yep, soo much anger that they voted for him again in 2004. Yep, that's a lot of anger
    I know, what assholes, everyone knows Republicans have the mental powers to see into the future and would've known in 2007 Bush would try and shove comprehensive immigration reform down their throats with the help of John McCain and Ted Kennedy and thus voted against him in 2004....

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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Because unlike Obama and the Democratic Congress...or more precisely like Obama and the Democratic Congress in regards to a true Public Option....The republicans in congress and the President in power had differing views in regards to what needed to be done so essentially created a situation where there was no absolute power.
    LOL now that is the best joke of the month... in denial much? You got it the wrong way around....

    The Republican party under Bush looked more and more like a European political party that votes together regardless, than individual representatives that should in theory have their own opinions on things.
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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL now that is the best joke of the month... in denial much? You got it the wrong way around....

    The Republican party under Bush looked more and more like a European political party that votes together regardless, than individual representatives that should in theory have their own opinions on things.
    You think its the best joke of the month. No wonder no one else finds it funny.

    Notice WHEN immigration did come up under Bush? In 2007, when DEMOCRATS had gained control.

    Notice WHAT kind of immigration Bush upshed for? Comprehensive reform, which DEMOCRATS wanted.

    Notice WHO opposed Bush the strongest during that 2007 push for immigration reform? Republicans, including many in the CONGRESS.

    And thankfully with enough pressure from the American People it was killed all together by a bipartisan effort on both sides.

    So I have actual facts...god I know you hate those pesky things...showing Bush viewed immigration in a way opposite to how those in congress wanted it, opposite to how his constituents wanted it, and more in line with what the other side wanted. And yet somehow, someway, you're telling me I'm wrong in suggesting that the reason it didn't get passed prior to that was because there was not agreement within the party because....um......you think the party would do anything and everything Bush wanted despite them not doing that, specifically on the issue at hand?

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure its not MY post that's the joke of the month.

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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Talk about an arrogant response lol, and lame excuse. What on EARTH does a countries size have to do with anything?
    Why would it make sense for a tiny country like yours to issue state IDs instead of one national ID?


    China has a national ID card that is required to get jobs, bank accounts, and tons of other things..
    China is more of an example of an oppressive government instead of a beacon of freedom. Besides that we have state IDs and we have social security numbers in which you need to get a legal job, bank account and many other things.

    Not really, it is just you that dont understand what a real national ID is and what it can do.

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    Why would someone who already knowingly breaks the law by hiring illegals and not adequately checking documents care if an illegal doesn't have a national ID? It is nothing more than a scam by the federal government to further intrude. I do not want the government having my fingerprints and biometric data on file it is none of their business. Its nothing more than step towards the federal government chipping everyone.
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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I know, what assholes, everyone knows Republicans have the mental powers to see into the future and would've known in 2007 Bush would try and shove comprehensive immigration reform down their throats with the help of John McCain and Ted Kennedy and thus voted against him in 2004....
    Yeah Bush only had 4 years to do something about it before idiots voted him in again in 2004, unlike Obama who hasn't had that long. But hey, whatever makes you feel better about bashing Obama on immigration issues.

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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yeah Bush only had 4 years to do something about it before idiots voted him in again in 2004, unlike Obama who hasn't had that long. But hey, whatever makes you feel better about bashing Obama on immigration issues.
    So because Bush didn't do enough that means Obama gets a pass when he does nothing?

    Sorry, doesn't excuse his inaction.
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    Re: Obama says politics to blame for immigration delay

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So because Bush didn't do enough that means Obama gets a pass when he does nothing?

    Sorry, doesn't excuse his inaction.
    Nope it doesn't excuse his actions, but it is funny watching conservatives and Republicans who voted for Bush again in 2004 (Giving him a free pass) whine and cry about Obama doing the same thing.

    Your feigned outrage is noted.

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