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    Re: US accepts international assistance for Gulf spill

    Then how to explain this fiasco: Avertible catastrophe

    In sharp contrast to Dutch preparedness before the fact and the Dutch instinct to dive into action once an emergency becomes apparent, witness the American reaction to the Dutch offer of help. The U.S. government responded with "Thanks but no thanks," remarked Visser, despite BP's desire to bring in the Dutch equipment and despite the no-lose nature of the Dutch offer --the Dutch government offered the use of its equipment at no charge. Even after the U.S. refused, the Dutch kept their vessels on standby, hoping the Americans would come round. By May 5, the U.S. had not come round. To the contrary, the U.S. had also turned down offers of help from 12 other governments, most of them with superior expertise and equipment --unlike the U.S., Europe has robust fleets of Oil Spill Response Vessels that sail circles around their make-shift U.S. counterparts.

    Why does neither the U.S. government nor U.S. energy companies have on hand the cleanup technology available in Europe? Ironically, the superior European technology runs afoul of U.S. environmental rules. The voracious Dutch vessels, for example, continuously suck up vast quantities of oily water, extract most of the oil and then spit overboard vast quantities of nearly oil-free water. Nearly oil-free isn't good enough for the U.S. regulators, who have a standard of 15 parts per million -- if water isn't at least 99.9985% pure, it may not be returned to the Gulf of Mexico.

    When ships in U.S. waters take in oil-contaminated water, they are forced to store it. As U.S. Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen, the official in charge of the clean-up operation, explained in a press briefing on June 11, "We have skimmed, to date, about 18 million gallons of oily water--the oil has to be decanted from that [and] our yield is usually somewhere around 10% or 15% on that." In other words, U.S. ships have mostly been removing water from the Gulf, requiring them to make up to 10 times as many trips to storage facilities where they off-load their oil-water mixture, an approach Koops calls "crazy."
    The Americans, overwhelmed by the catastrophic consequences of the BP spill, finally relented and took the Dutch up on their offer -- but only partly. Because the U.S. didn't want Dutch ships working the Gulf, the U.S. airlifted the Dutch equipment to the Gulf and then retrofitted it to U.S. vessels. And rather than have experienced Dutch crews immediately operate the oil-skimming equipment, to appease labour unions the U.S. postponed the clean-up operation to allow U.S. crews to be trained.
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    Re: US accepts international assistance for Gulf spill

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Umm... aid without organization is no aid at all. See: Haiti Quake
    You cant just let the flood doors open. Theres also probably no contingency to follow for a spill of this type and size hence the slow stupid response from organizations. But of course, obama is merely an inept socialist who you expect to move mountains singlehandedly. I don't see how you're pinning this on him.
    Exactly what didn't you understand about 70 days?

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    Re: US accepts international assistance for Gulf spill

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Exactly what didn't you understand about 70 days?
    And what don't you understand about the fact that foreign vessels began helping before 70 days?
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    Re: US accepts international assistance for Gulf spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And what don't you understand about the fact that foreign vessels began helping before 70 days?
    Do you really think the Obama administration would just hide the fact that foreign vessels have been giving us significant help in the 70 days since the spill began? Do you not smell a rat in that proclimation. Chances are that most of those vessels already had licenses to operate in the gulf. Chances are a lot of them are not equipped with the kind of technology the other ships have to make a significant impact. I would really like to know what these 24 foreign vessels are actually doing. No, this revelation after 70 days doesn't make any sense. I understand your gullibilty if you are an Obama supporter. It doesn't get him off the hook in any way with me though.

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    Re: US accepts international assistance for Gulf spill

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Do you really think the Obama administration would just hide the fact that foreign vessels have been giving us significant help in the 70 days since the spill began? Do you not smell a rat in that proclimation. Chances are that most of those vessels already had licenses to operate in the gulf. Chances are a lot of them are not equipped with the kind of technology the other ships have to make a significant impact. I would really like to know what these 24 foreign vessels are actually doing. No, this revelation after 70 days doesn't make any sense. I understand your gullibilty if you are an Obama supporter. It doesn't get him off the hook in any way with me though.
    They have not hidden it. They have in fact announced it. BP has also announced it. Example: Unified Command for the BP Oil Spill | Admiral Allen Provides Guidance to Ensure Expedited Jones Act Waiver Processing Should It Be Needed
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