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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why? so more money can be stolen? That seems smart.


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    Of COURSE. To the downtrodden it makes SENSE to penalize the only segment of our society that is successful and driving the economy. Of course its lost on them that by doing so you inhibit economic growth and investment...

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Of COURSE. To the downtrodden it makes SENSE to penalize the only segment of our society that is successful and driving the economy. Of course its lost on them that by doing so you inhibit economic growth and investment...
    Or in other words, "Hail Ceasar". Would you pass the grey poupon, please?

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    The fun things to do for a living don't pay **** and are physically demanding. I wouldn't be able to do them in my later years and would require savings to retire on. Retiring on those incomes would be impossible. Besides, doing said work, even if it is fun, is a JOB. It's an obligation. I want to be free of said obligations and do what I WANT to do, not what I'm obligated to do. And, there's no job that's going to pay me to sail around the world, climb everest, bungee jump off victoria falls, visit the various countries I want to visit and see the sights I want to see.

    And, as I've already experienced, the most fun jobs in the world eventually turn into work and become 'not so fun'. I absolutely love running whitewater, and I did it for a living for nearly a decade. But those last couple of years were crap. I hated going to work, I hated my job, i hated that my job ruined something that I loved so much to do. The fact that I was obligated to do the job made the job not fun after a few years. I still LOVE to run whitewater, and I do it and will continue to do it every chance I get. But now I do it on MY terms. I do it for ME, not for a living. Not because I'm obligated to. And I will never do it as a job again. Not to mention, I could in no way support myself in my later years with that income.
    I dont get the angst...if you want to and can afford to retire then of course you SHOULD. Some dont (I just cant fathom doing nothing...thats not a knock on anyone...thats just me). On the plus side...if you can afford to retire then you could ALSO support to do SOMETHING like craft or consulting or WHATEVER that would be more supplemtnal income or in my case...just something to keep me busy...young...engaged.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Or in other words, "Hail Ceasar". Would you pass the grey poupon, please?
    No...in other words I have chosen to work very hard to earn and provide for my family and for my grandchildren and you can either do the same for yours or eat **** for all I care...but in THIS country you have no right to other peoples success.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...in other words I have chosen to work very hard to earn and provide for my family and for my grandchildren and you can either do the same for yours or eat **** for all I care...but in THIS country you have no right to other peoples success.
    You are not the only one who works hard. What makes you so special that you can ignore the law?

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    To each their own...Ive seen the world...and plan to CONTINUE to see the world. I simply cant fathom NOT working. For months at a time (hence the sabbaticals I mentioned)...sure...

    Personally I get antsy after 4-5 days off. Its really hard to enjoy a 2 week vacation...but Im working on it!
    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont get the angst...if you want to and can afford to retire then of course you SHOULD. Some dont (I just cant fathom doing nothing...thats not a knock on anyone...thats just me). On the plus side...if you can afford to retire then you could ALSO support to do SOMETHING like craft or consulting or WHATEVER that would be more supplemtnal income or in my case...just something to keep me busy...young...engaged.
    It seems as though you're doing what Auntie is doing... assuming that retiring means doing nothing. To me, retiring means doing all the things I can't do while working full time. Who said anything about doing nothing? Retiring, to me, means sailing around the world. Going boogie-boarding on the Zambezi, the Pacuare, the Rio Futaleufu etc, . Bungee jumping at Victoria Falls. Climbing to at least the 2nd base camp of Everest. Seeing Petra, the great pyramids, Valley of Kings, and riding a camel in the Sahara. Going on a walkabout in Australia and then diving the Great Barrier Reef (and maybe getting paid to take others diving there ) Visiting Tikal, Nazca Peru, and the Andes. Ice diving in Alaska. Wandering around the Irish countryside. Taking a mud bath in Iceland. Dive the Andria Doria. Dive the Red Sea. Etc, etc, etc.

    And of course I could supplement my income, I plan on it. I have many skills in many different areas that can be utilized all over the world. I just don't want to do it full time. Odd jobs here and there, no problem. Full time work - sucks.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I guess because I want to work and can't I miss work and thus can't imagine not ever working (like I am now) and consider the idea to be annoying beyond belief. LOL
    Sounds like part of your issue is that you don't have a choice in the matter. Which is entirely understandable. The grass is always greener...

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Back to the main point though:

    Social Security doesn't have enough money. Assuming we're not going to get rid of it, the choices are:

    (a) raise the retirement age;

    (b) limit who gets it and how much; and/or

    (c) raise taxes.

    I prefer a and b myself.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Back to the main point though:

    Social Security doesn't have enough money. Assuming we're not going to get rid of it, the choices are:

    (a) raise the retirement age;

    (b) limit who gets it and how much; and/or

    (c) raise taxes.

    I prefer a and b myself.
    Curious - why didn't you include "opt out" as an option? I would think a restructure is in order for those willing to stay in the system, but those who opt out are on their own.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Curious - why didn't you include "opt out" as an option? I would think a restructure is in order for those willing to stay in the system, but those who opt out are on their own.
    Because I don't think that is a real possibility that will get considered by Congress.

    And it has real problems: LOTS of people will "opt out" because they want their money now, and don't think about the future. Then, when they retire, they'll be broke and have to go on welfare, become homeless, take up money at emergency rooms, or otherwise become a burden to the system without having ever contributing to the system at all. That will break the system even more, and put us even deeper in debt.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Curious - why didn't you include "opt out" as an option? I would think a restructure is in order for those willing to stay in the system, but those who opt out are on their own.
    He's being realistic.
    As much as I would love to opt out of it, there isn't a hot chance in hell of that happening.
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