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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    The fun things to do for a living don't pay **** and are physically demanding. I wouldn't be able to do them in my later years and would require savings to retire on. Retiring on those incomes would be impossible. Besides, doing said work, even if it is fun, is a JOB. It's an obligation. I want to be free of said obligations and do what I WANT to do, not what I'm obligated to do. And, there's no job that's going to pay me to sail around the world, climb everest, bungee jump off victoria falls, visit the various countries I want to visit and see the sights I want to see.

    And, as I've already experienced, the most fun jobs in the world eventually turn into work and become 'not so fun'. I absolutely love running whitewater, and I did it for a living for nearly a decade. But those last couple of years were crap. I hated going to work, I hated my job, i hated that my job ruined something that I loved so much to do. The fact that I was obligated to do the job made the job not fun after a few years. I still LOVE to run whitewater, and I do it and will continue to do it every chance I get. But now I do it on MY terms. I do it for ME, not for a living. Not because I'm obligated to. And I will never do it as a job again. Not to mention, I could in no way support myself in my later years with that income.
    Well - a lot of elderly people become depressed being retired because it's pointless . . . sitting around and doing nothing. So they take on various things to occupy their time - working might be one of those things. . . so it's never idle unless someone just wants to be idle.

    I fail to see how someone can actually plan for retirement - if you retire at, say, 65 - and intend on traveling the world - and you also have to pay bills and eat - you have to put a huge amount of money into savings within a 30 or 40 year period. What if you go into retirement at 65 and stick around for 30 more years? Is it even possible for someone to save up for 30 years of unemployment and travel?

    That's a lot of money to save up for I don't see how people manage to pull it off.
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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Not really -- because you'll live longer.

    When social security began, life expectancy was much shorter. Not that many people lived into their 70s. Now, people are still working way past that time (including a recent President and quite a few Senators).

    Most people get more back from social security than they put in, which is one of the reasons it's going broke after all.
    Would this bolded part have anything to do with the fact that I started paying in when I made $1.55/hr? You cannot simply use amounts when we are talking about a span of 50 years. In another post you stated ~ people that make 50k/yr shouldn't need any help from SS. Suppose their retirement age is 40 years from now. 50k won't pay for basic necessities in 2050.
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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - a lot of elderly people become depressed being retired because it's pointless . . . sitting around and doing nothing. So they take on various things to occupy their time - working might be one of those things. . . so it's never idle unless someone just wants to be idle.

    I fail to see how someone can actually plan for retirement - if you retire at, say, 65 - and intend on traveling the world - and you also have to pay bills and eat - you have to put a huge amount of money into savings within a 30 or 40 year period. What if you go into retirement at 65 and stick around for 30 more years? Is it even possible for someone to save up for 30 years of unemployment and travel?

    That's a lot of money to save up for I don't see how people manage to pull it off.
    I'm planning on retiring LONG before 65. I currently have a 5 year plan to be retired before 45. Does this mean I won't *ever* work and pull in any income? Of course not. But what it means is that I'll be debt free, own my own car, and own my sailboat with savings to boot and an untouched IRA still building. I can do the odd jobs here and there for income if necessary, but I don't want to have a full time job again. If I need to, I will, but I hope that I don't. Sailing around doesn't cost that much once you own the boat. And hopefully I'll be able to sail my ass right on down to Dominica or some other beautiful island, buy myself a small patch of land and live out my days there once I'm done seeing the things I want to see.

    It just seems you think "retire" means sitting around and doing nothing. To me, "retire" means doing all the things I can't do while I'm working full time.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    You work so you CAN retire and have a good life. Who the **** wants to work? I want to be able to retire as soon as financially possible so I can do more of the things I *want* to do.


    I can't fathom not ever retiring. If I thought I could never retire, I'd probably just shoot myself now. I'm working now simply to survive and so that I CAN retire and do all the things I want to do. Who the **** wants to work all the time? I want to go see more of the world and do fun things. Not sit in an office for the rest of my ****ing life.
    To each their own...Ive seen the world...and plan to CONTINUE to see the world. I simply cant fathom NOT working. For months at a time (hence the sabbaticals I mentioned)...sure...

    Personally I get antsy after 4-5 days off. Its really hard to enjoy a 2 week vacation...but Im working on it!

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    I guess because I want to work and can't I miss work and thus can't imagine not ever working (like I am now) and consider the idea to be annoying beyond belief. LOL
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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    What don't you understand about "disposable income? So what if they pay more taxes? They make more money. Should they pay only as much as everybody else? That would create an aristocracy. Oh never mind! We already have a crypto aristocracy.
    What part of "disposable income" makes you think YOU or the fed or anyone else has a right to it? I bust my ass for that 'disposable income'. Its mine. I earned it. Petty class warfare and jealousy is pathetic.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What part of "disposable income" makes you think YOU or the fed or anyone else has a right to it? I bust my ass for that 'disposable income'. Its mine. I earned it. Petty class warfare and jealousy is pathetic.
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