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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The rich pay far more of the overall tax burden than do the middle income or unemployed. Social Security isnt meant to be a charity system...it was created to be an emergency parachute retirement system in the worst of times. Because of peoples reliance on the government it has become for many their ONLY retirement plan. But since it is money involuntarily taken from them by the fed, at the very least the rich have every right to the money they have paid in.
    What don't you understand about "disposable income? So what if they pay more taxes? They make more money. Should they pay only as much as everybody else? That would create an aristocracy. Oh never mind! We already have a crypto aristocracy.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Can someone explain to me why we "need" to retire in general?
    What's the purpose of retiring, why is it a common thing? Why do people feel that "at a certain age I should be able to survive without being employed" ???

    I understand this concept not.

    It seems to fly in the face of all other advice and knowledge: work hard, earn a decent wage so you can support yourself and have a good life . . .
    I never will retire. I will die with my boots on with a hammer in my hand. I love wood butchering.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    What don't you understand about "disposable income? So what if they pay more taxes? They make more money. Should they pay only as much as everybody else? That would create an aristocracy. Oh never mind! We already have a crypto aristocracy.

    Doesn't the term "disposable income" denote that it is the earners to do with as they like? Who is the government to tell me what to do with my money not taken up by costs of living, which today is damned little thanks to our dear leader.


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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Doesn't the term "disposable income" denote that it is the earners to do with as they like? Who is the government to tell me what to do with my money not taken up by costs of living, which today is damned little thanks to our dear leader.


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    I am talking about the limit to taxes paid into SS. Since most of these taxes have gone into the general fund and given an imaginary iou, it does not seem fair. The limit should be raised.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I am talking about the limit to taxes paid into SS. Since most of these taxes have gone into the general fund and given an imaginary iou, it does not seem fair. The limit should be raised.
    Why? so more money can be stolen? That seems smart.


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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why? so more money can be stolen? That seems smart.


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    Laws could be made to make them stop stealing it.

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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    boner appears to be on drugs.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Laws could be made to make them stop stealing it.

    Oooh I know, let's have a 'lock box' right? Give me a break. How about they give me back what I have put in, and I'll invest it......It is mine after all.


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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    boner appears to be on drugs.
    Starting out with a childish name call is always grounds for credibility.


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    Re: Boehner wants to raise the retirement age to 70

    I find the concept of retirement optional - as I do the need to continue SS the way it is. Make it optional as well. So if I do better at personal investment, I may take option to "retire" and say do something I'd want to do. That may be still working - but working at something I want to do, not necessarily something I have to do for the pay. One can argue that anyone can do that now - but life's circumstances may not make that a wise choice. Make it optional - extend retirement age (for benefits) to 70.

    One must also realize that, generally we are living longer - that does NOT mean that extended life means we are able to work. Quality of life issues and capabilities at 60 or 65 may inhibit some people from working.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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