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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...actually I didn't. I knew exactly what you were implying....and I think my response was appropriate. If you understand the Constitution and equal protection analysis, you know that not every factor is treated the exact same under EP analysis....and while Universities have non-discrimination policies, having a number of criteria for admissions, apart from an SAT score does not violate those policies.
    So because the court said one thing, you think that anyone who disagrees with any aspect of it doesn't "understand the Constitution and equal protection analysis"? Does that same logic apply to SC decisions that you don't like?
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

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    Court: Christian group can't bar gays, get funding - Politics - msnbc.com



    Seems like a reasonable decision to me. The first amendment protects your right to discriminate but it does not protect your right to receive public funding or recognition to enable your discrimination. (the Christian group in question excluded homosexuals)

    5-4 decision, with the expected conservative/liberal split and Kennedy siding with the liberals on this one. That four supreme court justices think the first amendment protects your right to public funding of discrimination is fairly disturbing.

    On the plus side, this gives some hope to the folks waiting on overturn of California's Prop 8, as it shows that Kennedy wont automatically side against homosexuality. Overturning Prop 8 is a much bigger decision, though, so how he ends up in the inevitable Supreme Court case remains to be seen.
    Not surprising that the 4 anti-gay-rights, roman catholic, conservative judges dissented.
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    So then can a fundamentalist anti-homosexual agenda Christian join a gay activist group?
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So then can a fundamentalist anti-homosexual agenda Christian join a gay activist group?
    Is the gay rights group receiving public funding?

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So then can a fundamentalist anti-homosexual agenda Christian join a gay activist group?
    By all means, if they want to do so, then sure...if the gay activist group is getting public funding.

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So then can a fundamentalist anti-homosexual agenda Christian join a gay activist group?
    It's up to the group to decide on that. They don't get to decide if they'll be recognized by a University though.

    If they decide not to accept the person and they hope to get the University to fund them, it's up the University to decide if they will do so.
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It's up to the group to decide on that. They don't get to decide if they'll be recognized by a University though.

    If they decide not to accept the person and they hope to get the University to fund them, it's up the University to decide if they will do so.
    This is where I feared it would become a too used and abused to oppress groups that the school disagrees with ideologically. It would be a double standard to refuse to fund/acknowledge a Christian group that doesn't accept gays, and then do the opposite to a gay rights group that doesn't accept Christians.
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This is where I feared it would become a too used and abused to oppress groups that the school disagrees with ideologically. It would be a double standard to refuse to fund/acknowledge a Christian group that doesn't accept gays, and then do the opposite to a gay rights group that doesn't accept Christians.
    I think it would all depend on the intent of the person joining the group. If the homo wants to join a group for the professional networking or for the benefits of the group, fine. If he wants to join to be a disruption, then the group should have recourse to expel him. Same with the christian wanting to join the gay group. Protest should not be permitted to be carried out from within the group's membership.

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Hate to break it to you digs, but a lot of gays are Christian.
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This is where I feared it would become a too used and abused to oppress groups that the school disagrees with ideologically. It would be a double standard to refuse to fund/acknowledge a Christian group that doesn't accept gays, and then do the opposite to a gay rights group that doesn't accept Christians.
    Why should the groups ideology supercede that of the Universtiy's?

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